20-06-2018, 00:02
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Which can lead to over 16 million people sulking and chucking their dummies out of the pram , but their all over that now aren't they ?  |
The additional 1.4m of their number are unfortunately still doing just that, fearful that Brexit will never happen.
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Don't the Gov get the last say on Brexit considering all the in fighting at the moment and facing the fact the EU is messing us about at the min we arent that long away now from actually leaving and don't appear to have got much from all the talks so far. unless there is a lot we don't know about yet that hasn't been given out to the general public
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I think you're right to point out that the talks aren't making much progress of late, particularly on the evidence of today's news.
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EU leaders will sound the alarm on the lack of progress in Brexit talks and pledge to step-up contingency plans for the UK crashing out with ‘no deal’, according to documents leaked to The Independent.
The 27 remaining EU presidents and prime ministers will meet in private without Theresa May at next week’s European Council summit in Brussels to discuss progress in negotiations.
But a draft of the Council’s conclusions show national leaders are planning to express their “concern that no substantial progress has yet been achieved on agreeing a backstop solution for Ireland/Northern Ireland”.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8406511.html
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20-06-2018, 02:34
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Re: Brexit discussion
I guess the reason we're not progressing much is because the EU don't want us to.
Maybe if they conceded a little here and there things would progress faster?
But that's not really in their agenda is it, they want the cake, plate and all the crumbs from underneath the table too 
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20-06-2018, 10:25
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Re: Brexit discussion
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I guess the reason we're not progressing much is because the EU don't want us to.
Maybe if they conceded a little here and there things would progress faster?
But that's not really in their agenda is it, they want the cake, plate and all the crumbs from underneath the table too |
Oh, the irony..... 
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20-06-2018, 11:09
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Oh, the irony..... |
well I guess that all depends where you're looking, and where from
My personal opinion is the EU are doing all they can to keep their claws in the UK, that's probably a biased view though, as I didn't - and still don't - want any part of it
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20-06-2018, 11:33
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Oh, the irony..... |
Comedy gold.
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20-06-2018, 16:35
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Re: Brexit discussion
Latest development in the Commons:
Brexit: Theresa May wins 'meaningful vote' battle
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Ministers agreed the Speaker would be able to decide if MPs had the power to amend a motion on what to do if there is no agreement the EU
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Curious outcome ...
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20-06-2018, 18:32
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Re: Brexit discussion
Anyone Fancy a job?
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Head of Aviation EU Exit Negotiations
Leading on the overall negotiating position on aviation for the Government, your duties will include:
• establishing, leading and managing the core aviation negotiating team, and ensuring its close coordination with existing policy and legislation teams
• overseeing negotiations with the EU on the future of our aviation safety and airspace relationships
• contributing to the formulation and implementation of the UK’s future aviation strategy and development of related legislation and policies
Prior knowledge of airspace and the aviation sector is an advantage but not necessary.
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Note part of the role is establishing a negotiating team. Only 9 months to go, no pressure then...
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20-06-2018, 19:20
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Yes democracy is a bit of a bugger when it doesn't go ones way .
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20-06-2018, 22:14
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Yes democracy is a bit of a bugger when it doesn't go ones way .
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Ah, getting nervous that Parliament might have a say in the future of the country? Wrong sort of democracy isn't it?
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Anyone Fancy a job?
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Love the part where "knowledge of airspace and the aviation sector is an advantage but not necessary"  No need for an expert then ...
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20-06-2018, 22:49
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Love the part where "knowledge of airspace and the aviation sector is an advantage but not necessary" No need for an expert then ... |
Well wording it like that gives them the safe option of putting a puppet in place doesn't it. Giving the job to an 'expert' may lead to things they don't necessarily want
Just my opinion of course, there's nothing underhand or corrupt about anything concerning politics 
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21-06-2018, 09:05
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Love the part where "knowledge of airspace and the aviation sector is an advantage but not necessary" No need for an expert then ... |
It's alright, our transport secretary will have things covered
Saw the salary range BTW; £62,519 - £70,859. Really going to attract the cream of the crop there...
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21-06-2018, 09:10
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Ah, getting nervous that Parliament might have a say in the future of the country? Wrong sort of democracy isn't it?
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I'm not nervous about anything to do with parliamentary democracy .
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21-06-2018, 09:44
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Ah, getting nervous that Parliament might have a say in the future of the country? Wrong sort of democracy isn't it?
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Parliament should be carrying out the will of the electorate, given the result of the referendum. Parliament does not exist to actually thwart the will of the people!
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21-06-2018, 09:56
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Parliament should be carrying out the will of the electorate, given the result of the referendum. Parliament does not exist to actually thwart the will of the people!
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Does rather depend on what the will of the people means. Logically we should include those who were too young to vote in the referendum. But I am sure that all the brexiteers would call foul.
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