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Old 19-01-2022, 14:42   #736
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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I remember you being equally outraged when Reckless and Carswell defected from the Tories.

Oh, wait….
Crikey - this was years ago. Chip and shoulder come to mind.
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Old 19-01-2022, 14:45   #737
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Starmer also broke the rules, I think his excuse it was a work meeting, is rather pathetic - they both broke the rules - but what was really striking with PMQs not one question on the impending threat from Russia invading Ukraine.

Whilst Starmers behaviour if true certainly isn't acceptable. I'm not sure you can make use of it to justify the one incident (so far) against the multiple instances that have occured with and around Boris.

It's akin to saying that one person who is caught driving at 75mph on a deserted motorway in the middle of the night has the same level of culpability as an individual caught ten times speeding at 90mph through a 30mph zone.
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Old 19-01-2022, 14:46   #738
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Unless Labour does worse than 2019, which is unlikely at the moment, he probably would have lost his seat given the wafer-thin majority.

Not talking about this current surge of polling for Labour, which will drop at some point, either but for a long time now Labour have been outperforming their polling in the seats lost in 2019 so Bury South would have been one of the top targets.

In fact just looked it up. It would be 3rd on their list: http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/bat...targets/labour

So if you take the national swing only then Labour would (in theory) capture Bury South with a 3 seat gain.
Yes I see that, but would people actually vote for someone who, possibly, would turn again if he got upset by something Labour did . . . and Labour doesn't have a clean track record when it comes to infighting does it, so he may well be off again at some time
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Old 19-01-2022, 15:00   #739
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Bury South MP Christian Wakeford has this morning defected from the Conservatives to Labour.

https://news.sky.com/story/tory-mp-d...rship-12519919
This is the same MP who co-sponsored a bill to force by-elections to take place after defections.

Also it seems voting him over 400 times in 2 years for policies which fly in the face of labour values has made him extremely unwelcome in some labour quarters......
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Old 19-01-2022, 15:30   #740
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This is the same MP who co-sponsored a bill to force by-elections to take place after defections.

Also it seems voting him over 400 times in 2 years for policies which fly in the face of labour values has made him extremely unwelcome in some labour quarters......
Main thing to watch is its short-term impact in Westminster.
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Old 19-01-2022, 15:35   #741
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Crikey - this was years ago. Chip and shoulder come to mind.
Not the first two words that come to my mind.
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Actually we are involved in Ukraine, far more deeply than many realise. It’s not an either/or situation - government goes on even when the prime minister is a numpty.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/brit...ns-to-ukraine/
Good to hear. Unfortunately, our diplomatic efforts will be constrained at the top level as Johnson fights to remain as Prime Minister.
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This is the same MP who co-sponsored a bill to force by-elections to take place after defections.

Also it seems voting him over 400 times in 2 years for policies which fly in the face of labour values has made him extremely unwelcome in some labour quarters......
Yes, voted on it on 2nd Sept 2020.

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Unless Labour does worse than 2019, which is unlikely at the moment, he probably would have lost his seat given the wafer-thin majority.
Indeed, just someone that likes his 80K + expenses salary and wants to keep it. He'd probably swap to the SNP too if they looked like winning the seat.
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Crikey - this was years ago. Chip and shoulder come to mind.
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Not the first two words that come to my mind.
Apologies, I didn’t realise there was a time limit on relevant facts…

I’ll bear that in mind the next time anyone brings up the last time the Labour Party were in power…
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Crikey - this was years ago. Chip and shoulder come to mind.
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Dave42 is right. Check out the Sky News video below. Johnson says "nobody told me" the Number 10 garden party during lockdown was "against the rules".

Whilst ignorance of the law is no defence, they're his rules that he announced the rules to the public!
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1483431855001063429
Yes, he did say that, but he said it because people keep alleging that he was warned it was illegal. Come on, Andrew, join the dots!

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Senior Conservative backbencher tells me tonight they are confident of getting to 54 letters tomorrow to try and oust the PM.

“Up the revolution!” they tell me.
That went well…

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Bury South MP Christian Wakeford has this morning defected from the Conservatives to Labour.

https://news.sky.com/story/tory-mp-d...rship-12519919
And you should hear what his constituents say about that.

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Christian Wakeford . . . just had a look at his wiki page, seems just as corrupt and useless as most. Probably won't win the next local election anyway if standing for Labour, no harm done.
He’s a one-trick pony. His constituents are furious with him.
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

He’s got a long way to go, OB I’d not count your chickens just yet.

His decision to be Steve Baker’s useful idiot today will likely only buy him time not survival. Especially if the electorate see through it for what it is.
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Boris is taking his party downhill, He is only giving the SNP a great boost, He must go and give the conservative a chance with a new leader to get rid of the SNP or we will be stuck with Nicola for ever,
I heard some pretty good news from Mr. Boris today

He said almost all restrictions are being lifted,thats quite g00d!!!
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