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Old 12-04-2022, 20:05   #1516
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Boris says sorry but REFUSES to resign over partygate and he vows to get on with job


The fine has been paid time to get on with the day job.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ess-conference
He's never done a day's work in his life, so that will be tricky.
Great news for the opposition if he does stay.

Do we get to see the Sue Gray report now?
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He's never done a day's work in his life, so that will be tricky.
Great news for the opposition if he does stay.

Do we get to see the Sue Gray report now?
What opposition...
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He's never done a day's work in his life, so that will be tricky.
Great news for the opposition if he does stay.

Do we get to see the Sue Gray report now?
Don't think the police have done yet. Borris has no doubt more fixed penalties coming. Will be a few weeks until the report sees the light of day - definitely won't see it this side of the local elections in May.
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Don't think the police have done yet. Borris has no doubt more fixed penalties coming. Will be a few weeks until the report sees the light of day - definitely won't see it this side of the local elections in May.
Sticking my neck out, the Tories are going to get shafted in May. How disappointing for me that my party is not properly Conservative.
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As Starmer has said, Boris "has dishonoured his office".
But at a UK level. I don't want to see turmoil. Choosing a new leader takes a lot of time and will distract the Guvmin from important matters now at hand..
Didn't stop the Conservatives in 1940, or the Coalition in 1916…
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Didn't stop the Conservatives in 1940, or the Coalition in 1916…
What you've said has nothing to do with the present situation.
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Is it trivial he lied to Parliament about breaking lockdown rules?
Well, he says that cake was presented to him on his birthday in the committee room where he was attending a meeting, and the extra people who dropped in were his work colleagues that he associated with all the time. It lasted all of 10 minutes.

He said he did not regard that as breaking the rules, which would mean he didn’t knowingly lie to Parliament - he was simply mistaken.

This is why Rees-Mogg describes this incident as ‘fluff’.

Of course his opponents will flog this one to death, but I still feel, when you look at the circumstances, this was no big deal.

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So I'm just watching Wiggy on BBC news now rolling out the line that what does it matter if he was just having a quick drink at the end of the day after all, these are the people he'd been working with all day.
Quite. So where’s the harm?
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What you've said has nothing to do with the present situation.
Precedents of changing PM in time of war - fairly relevant to the current situation (except we are not actually actively involved in a war)…

Anyhoo, when is Boris going to take disciplinary action against himself and Sunak?

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Johnson tells parliament: "I apologise unreservedly for the offence that (the Stratton clip) has caused up and down the country, and I apologise for the impression that it gives.

"I have been repeatedly assured since these allegations emerged that there was no party and that no COVID rules were broken... if those rules were broken, there will be disciplinary action for all those involved./"
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/loc...on-2022-04-12/
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He'll survive for the same reason he had the parties. The rules don't apply to him. Sunak might go though.
Of course they apply, but this has been blown up out of all proportion. He was bounced into that situation. What was he supposed to do - jump out of the window in panic? 10 minutes. 10 minutes. With colleagues he worked with all the time.
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Well, he says that cake was presented to him on his birthday in the committee room where he was attending a meeting, and the extra people who dropped in were his work colleagues that he associated with all the time. It lasted all of 10 minutes.

He said he did not regard that as breaking the rules, which would mean he didn’t knowingly lie to Parliament - he was simply mistaken.

This is why Rees-Mogg describes this incident as ‘fluff’.

Of course his opponents will flog this one to death, but I still feel, when you look at the circumstances, this was no big deal.

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Quite. So where’s the harm?
The Police disagree with you…
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Johnson needs to move out and then we can move on.
He won’t. Move on anyway, this getting really boring now.

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What do you expect from the bungling Met? They have form, you know.
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Of course they apply, but this has been blown up out of all proportion. He was bounced into that situation. What was he supposed to do - jump out of the window in panic? 10 minutes. 10 minutes. With colleagues he worked with all the time.
Or…

"Sorry, guys - nice thought, but this is against the rules we’ve asked everyone else to follow, and as the people setting the rules, we have to set an example; please return to your desks".
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They set the rules. They should have followed them.
Technically. But we all know it was the scientists who set the rules. Boris was never an enthusiast.
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He won’t. Move on anyway, this getting really boring now.

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What do you expect from the bungling Met? They have form, you know.
Sorry, you’re sounding bit muffled - isn’t it uncomfortable being that far up Johnson’s fundament?

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Technically. But we all know it was the scientists who set the rules. Boris was never an enthusiast.
I’ll try that next time I get stopped for breaking the law…

"I know you guys (the Police/CPS) didn’t set the rules, but I’ve never been an enthusiast about them…".
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No, it demonstrates that they thought they were able to be cautious enough in their own behaviour to mitigate their rule breaking and avoid spreading covid, while assuming that the Great Unwashed couldn’t be trusted and so must have the rules enforced with fines.

Whether or not that’s the case is a separate issue. The issue of concern now is whether those in leadership should lead by example at a time of crisis, and what they should do if they are found wanting.
Well, Chris, if you consider that 10-minute birthday presentation by people he was surrounded by all the time during a quick break from work a ‘party’, you must have had a very hard childhood.

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But he is the definition of instability? You, being in a small minority of Tory supporters on this forum, have called him out as unfit for office.

He is a serial liar, with no moral compass. This country deserves better.
What, like Starmer? Give us a break!
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