Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 203

AlexanderHanff · 12-04-2008, 17:54

You back again? Sheeesh, how many times do I have to point this out to you. The trials were carried out in the UK, by a company Registered and Headquartered -IN THE UK- against people -IN THE UK-.

There is no conflict of jurisdiction, there is no conflict of law.

Now please stop trolling this thread we are trying to engage in intelligent debate not nonsense.

Even other courts in the UK can not set precedent (Other than the High Court). Judges are required to consult case law but their judgement does not have to support it.

Alexander Hanff

SMHarman · 12-04-2008, 18:06

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Originally Posted by SimonHickling

Having re-read some of the previously mentioned articles it seems that sites will not have ads thrust upon them unless they subscribe to OIX. My mistake (I hope). I still don't want them trawling my sites though.

Yes according to Phorm and the current design, your site will not get any changes made what will happen is that if you are a site that is part of OIX, the OIX server will server relevant ads to fill the ad holes on the site based on the viewer, not based on the site context which is how the Google ones currently work.

Now Posting in Safari on a PC. Take that Phorm.

MovedGoalPosts · 12-04-2008, 18:12

If you aren't happy or suspect something is wrong with a post, please use the report post function. Don't bait or antagonise as it just makes it harder to clean up the mess.

OF1975 · 12-04-2008, 18:14

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

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Now Posting in Safari on a PC. Take that Phorm.

I am giving very serious thought to doing the same. I tend to mix up my browsing between a mixture of IE7 and Firefox. I may just change permanently to safari for windows and then Phorm can go......

manxminx · 12-04-2008, 18:29

About changing to Safari. Why should we have to? I like Firefox (There's an IE add on so there's no need to ever use IE again) and no company is going to dictate to me which browser I use.

Thanks for the EXCELLENT bank letter amateria, word doc is ok for me. No printer at the moment so I'll be using it as a template, make a few small changes and emailing the letter to my banks.

Ali.

OF1975 · 12-04-2008, 18:33

Ok I installed safari and boy is it ugly. Safari for windows doesnt seem to have any official skins or plugins to change its appearance much and thats a shame. Fighting Phorm shouldnt be at the expense of pretty UI.

SMG · 12-04-2008, 18:47

Whatever my surfing habits are, they are not for anyone else to use or comment on.

If some guy followed me around Tesco, jotting down everything I bought or looked at, then passed it around, I`d be a bit *****d off, & probably end up lamping him one.

It seems there are no limits to how low Branson will stoop, to make a few bob. So much for "Mr Clean". The rich NEVER have enough. They always want more.

Winston Smith · 12-04-2008, 19:40

I had a response (hand addressed, signed etc) from my MP today to the email I sent earlier this month. To be fair to my MP they were on holiday, and their aide emailed me at the time to inform me of this. Very promising (well, thats what I read from it).

I assume I can quote my MP, without names etc.

Part of their response:

"..which I read with considerable sympathy as I do believe there is a privacy and data protection issue here. I would like to help and so will make immediate representations to the appropriate Minister."

Nice result, of course it does depend on the 'appropriate Minister' paying any attention, but nonetheless a nice reply.

WinstonS

JackSon · 12-04-2008, 19:51

Here's hoping the 'appropriate minister' is not on the payroll of Phorm/BT/TT/VM

Winston Smith · 12-04-2008, 19:54

Cynic, not even Phorm could afford them all surely?
Though maybe MIG flights are more profitable than I thought.

Mesmer · 12-04-2008, 22:07

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Originally Posted by OF1975

Ok I installed safari and boy is it ugly. Safari for windows doesnt seem to have any official skins or plugins to change its appearance much and thats a shame. Fighting Phorm shouldnt be at the expense of pretty UI.

I was wondering if it might be possible to produce a Firefox add-on that can emulate the feature in Safari that makes Phorm roll over and die.

unicus · 12-04-2008, 22:44

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Originally Posted by Mesmer

I was wondering if it might be possible to produce a Firefox add-on that can emulate the feature in Safari that makes Phorm roll over and die.

Phorm, as far as I know, checks the user agent that is sent from your browser and with Firefox you can pretend to be any browser (or even make one up), just use the add-on 'User Agent Switcher'

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59

And there's a large import of user agents here-

http://qainsight.net/content/binary/...gs20070304.xml (right click and download)

Tarquin L-Smythe · 12-04-2008, 22:53

Good evening To all I have spent a couple of days reading this excellent thread and I commend you all on your input,I come here being a victim of the BT exclusion over the closing of the BT/PHORM threads also defending one of your own in his right to post there.Just to say I had a reply from my MP who thought I was talking about the illegal downloading of music etc.Oh well here we go again.good to see positive action being taken.

Tarquin Loombreaker-Smythe

Portly_Giraffe · 12-04-2008, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Tarquin L-Smythe

Just to say I had a reply from my MP who thought I was talking about the illegal downloading of music etc.

Another reason why we have to be able to present the simple message as well as the important legal and technical detail.

http://www.inphormationdesk.org/legislators.htm

popper · 12-04-2008, 23:09

Tarquin

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http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj...3_04_08_en.pdf
ARTICLE 29 Data Protection Working Party

Brussels, 09 April 2008

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The WP considers that personal data registered by search engines must be erased as soon as possible, and after a 6-month period at the latest.

In any event, Directive 2006/24/EC

relating to the storage of traffic data does not apply to search engines; they do not have thus any legal obligation to store information concerning users traffic data, unlike Internet access providers for example.

- The WP recommends that Internet users be also clearly informed of their rights, in accordance with Directive 95/46/EC relating to the protection of personal data :

information on the purposes of the data process, the terms of exercise of their right of access, modification and erasure.

Lastly, Internet users must give their consent to the use of their data for consumer profiling purposes in particular.

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