07-02-2024, 22:30
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
Virgin Media have launched Gig2 Full Fibre for areas in their nexfibre XGS-PON network.
It will cost £84 per month or £90 per month with symmetrical speeds.
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And what will anyone do with it? Sainsburys shopping?
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07-02-2024, 23:10
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Virgin Media have launched Gig2 Full Fibre for areas in their nexfibre XGS-PON network.
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What areas whould those be ?
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08-02-2024, 09:58
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Re: VM General News Thread
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What areas whould those be ?
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Loads of them. At the moment, it's mostly small towns & large villages that weren't originally cabled. At some point they will start overbuilding the cable network.
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08-02-2024, 21:33
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Oh, well I guess that rules me out for a long time still
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08-02-2024, 21:56
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Loads of them.
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Not really, VM’s XGS-PON active foot print is, as present , modest.
Outlaying areas mainly, however Scarborough is a good one.
2G non-symmetrical, can and will be, provided over the HFC anyway.
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09-02-2024, 15:46
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Re: VM General News Thread
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09-02-2024, 20:51
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Not really, VM’s XGS-PON active foot print is, as present , modest.
Outlaying areas mainly, however Scarborough is a good one.
2G non-symmetrical, can and will be, provided over the HFC anyway.
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.....on the nexfibre network, which is approaching availability to 1 million homes in suburban and semi-rural areas across the UK, including key cities like Belfast, Cardiff, London, and Glasgow, offers 2 Gbps speeds. .... Per press release
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10-02-2024, 17:18
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Re: VM General News Thread
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.....on the nexfibre network, which is approaching availability to 1 million homes in suburban and semi-rural areas across the UK, including key cities like Belfast, Cardiff, London, and Glasgow, offers 2 Gbps speeds. .... Per press release
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As I said XGS-PON availability in relation to VM’s HFC & RFoG offering is, at present, modest.
But that will, and is, improving.
The fibre overbuild of the HFC network is well underway, but none of the overbuild is live yet and HFC customers don’t yet have the option to switch.
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10-02-2024, 19:42
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Not really, VM’s XGS-PON active foot print is, as present , modest.
Outlaying areas mainly, .
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Have no idea what this really is ,but Cardiff Central definitely is not an outlining error
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10-02-2024, 20:41
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Re: VM General News Thread
From the Telegraph:
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Virgin Media O2 (VMO2) has revived takeover talks with TalkTalk as the struggling broadband provider faces a looming cash crunch.
Executives at the two companies have held discussions over a potential deal that would see VMO2 take control of TalkTalk’s consumer division.
It comes two years after VMO2 and TalkTalk abandoned plans for a full takeover that could have been priced at up to £3bn including debt because of market and regulatory uncertainties.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/comp...53c53ddd&ei=15
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11-02-2024, 08:58
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Have no idea what this really is ,but Cardiff Central definitely is not an outlining error ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Are you able to obtain XGS-PON in Central Cardiff from Virgin Media?
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A recent re-org in the VM CTO division, means it is focused on build and delivery of NexFibre and Fibre overbuild and, tellingly, M&A of other alt nets.
Talk Talk may have a decent consumer base, but it’s mainly delivered over OpenReach infrastructure and I’m not sure that’s what VMO2 are looking for.
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Talk Talk may have a decent consumer base, but it’s mainly delivered over OpenReach infrastructure and I’m not sure that’s what VMO2 are looking for.
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Agreed. The article had this to say on that subject
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Any tie-up would also likely involve a wholesale agreement back to TalkTalk, though VMO2 would ultimately look to shift the customers over to full-fibre as it builds out its network.
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I would have though Vodafone would be a better combination, given their use of City Fibre and Open Reach like Talk Talk and value focus. However, Vodafone are busy trying to merge with Three and not flush with cash which is what TalkTalk's owners need.
The Telegraph also suggested regulatory issues might be a concern with Vodafone. I thought this would be less of a concern as they're not as large a player in broadband as VM.
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TalkTalk’s consumer base could attract interest from other industry players including Vodafone, though any such deal would likely face greater regulatory scrutiny given the two companies serve similar parts of the market.
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11-02-2024, 11:11
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Are you able to obtain XGS-PON in Central Cardiff from Virgin Media?
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Reword have no idea what this is. And I don't live in Central Cardiff so not a clue
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11-02-2024, 15:48
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Re: VM General News Thread
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Reflecting on this, VM O2 is the only big UK ISP not to have a value brand. Sky has Now and BT has PlusNet. VM O2 now has the value mobile brand GiffGaff in its portfolio which it could apply to TalkTalk's consumer arm if it acquired the business.
Although it would obviously be a lot of work moving TalkTalk customers over to cable connections where available, combining the two ISPs would give VM O2 market share getting close to BT's and leapfrogging Sky.
How the regulators would view it is another matter but given the context of TalkTalk's finances there might be some flexibility. A potential remedy that could suit both sides is if VM O2 agreed to sell on those TalkTalk customers who weren't in its cabled areas, perhaps coming to an arrangement with Vodafone in advance.
Market share- BT/EE/PlusNet 33.6%
- Sky/Now >24.04%
- VM 20.18%
- Talk Talk/Shell 11.65%
- Vodafone 4.36%
Per: https://www.choose.co.uk/broadband/guide/market-share/
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