17-12-2018, 14:20
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
You don't say - I am well aware of that - but it does not negate my point at all.
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You better not be accusing me of lying!!!
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It negates the point that areas of deep red on the Leaver map are the equivalent or greater than those in the Rescind map.
The leaver map need 200+ to hit red, the Rescind map need 571+, nearly 3 times as many to hit red, so it is not valid to say because one is redder than the other it shows more support.
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Amber Rudd in particular, throughout the last 2 years has been seditious in relation to the Referendum result, Along with Hammond.
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So if you disagree with the Government, it’s free speech - if they do it, it’s sedition...
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17-12-2018, 14:28
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
Could you amend the quote in that post Seph? It makes it look as though the comment was mine.
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Fixed with special mod powers
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17-12-2018, 14:52
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Re: Brexit
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Thanks Damien.
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17-12-2018, 14:57
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Re: Brexit
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Quote from The Sun:
Brexiteers won a huge boost today as Brussels blinked over plans to manage a No Deal outcome.
The EU will announce proposals this week which will keep planes in the air and goods flowing across the Channel until at least 2020.
It means there won't be a "cliff edge" exit even if we leave the EU in March without a full deal with Brussels.
The news is a victory Brexit-backing MPs who insisted all along that Eurocrats would act to avoid total chaos in a No Deal scenario.
Jacob Rees-Mogg told The Sun: "This fits in with the idea of a managed No Deal."
Eurocrats will announce a series of emergency measures on Wednesday to reduce the impact on both sides' economies.
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A victory for pragmatism. Who needs May's Hokey Cokey plan anyway?
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17-12-2018, 15:09
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
Could you amend the quote in that post Seph? It makes it look as though the comment was mine.
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Can't see why - but I've clarified.
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It negates the point that areas of deep red on the Leaver map are the equivalent or greater than those in the Rescind map.
The leaver map need 200+ to hit red, the Rescind map need 571+, nearly 3 times as many to hit red, so it is not valid to say because one is redder than the other it shows more support.
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So if you disagree with the Government, it’s free speech - if they do it, it’s sedition...
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Don't be silly. The Referendum result was Leave; certain members of the guvmin are trying to derail Brexit and so stiff the 17.4 million.
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17-12-2018, 15:41
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Re: Brexit
The Sun is being highly misleading to say they've blinked or decided to come with proposals now. They've been working on them for months. It's just quite literally they're revealing them now. There would still be a cliff-edge though because the EU is not planning to maintain the bilateral trading arrangements, only their own side.
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May's Deal goes to the commons on the 'week of' 14th January.
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17-12-2018, 15:52
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
Yes they bloody well are.
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17-12-2018, 15:57
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Re: Brexit
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Can't see why - but I've clarified.
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Damien had already corrected it but thanks.
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17-12-2018, 16:02
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
The Sun is being highly misleading to say they've blinked or decided to come with proposals now. They've been working on them for months. It's just quite literally they're revealing them now. There would still be a cliff-edge though because the EU is not planning to maintain the bilateral trading arrangements, only their own side.
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May's Deal goes to the commons on the 'week of' 14th January.
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And if she loses that which as it stands look extremely likely l would not be surprised if a vote of no confidence is then called against this government..
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17-12-2018, 16:03
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
The Sun is being highly misleading to say they've blinked or decided to come with proposals now. They've been working on them for months. It's just quite literally they're revealing them now. There would still be a cliff-edge though because the EU is not planning to maintain the bilateral trading arrangements, only their own side.
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As have the UK - https://www.gov.uk/government/collec...u-with-no-deal
All project fear of course... I wonder if anyone who wants to leave with no deal and all will be fine would be willing to put there money where their mouth is and offer to compensate for any losses? Ress-Mogg and Redwood, I am looking at you.
As polling suggests that there is a considerable overlap in the venn diagram of leave voters and conservative voters in the 2017 election, I wonder how much regret there is for voting for a party with a 'remainer' leader and if they would vote conservative again in the future.
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17-12-2018, 16:39
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Can't see why - but I've clarified.
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Don't be silly. The Referendum result was Leave; certain members of the guvmin are trying to derail Brexit and so stiff the 17.4 million.
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Don’t be silly - that’s not what sedition means.
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17-12-2018, 16:42
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
The Sun is being highly misleading to say they've blinked or decided to come with proposals now. They've been working on them for months. It's just quite literally they're revealing them now. There would still be a cliff-edge though because the EU is not planning to maintain the bilateral trading arrangements, only their own side.
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May's Deal goes to the commons on the 'week of' 14th January.
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Conceding if the EU prepares.
Project Fear if the UK prepares.
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17-12-2018, 17:01
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Don’t be silly - that’s not what sedition means.
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sedition
/sɪˈdɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: sedition; plural noun: seditions
conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
synonyms:
incitement (to riot/rebellion), agitation, rabble-rousing, fomentation (of discontent), troublemaking, provocation, inflaming;
Note the synonyms.
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17-12-2018, 17:26
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Re: Brexit
I wouldn’t describe it as troublemaking. Troubleshooting maybe.
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17-12-2018, 17:32
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Re: Brexit
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I wouldn’t describe it as troublemaking. Troubleshooting maybe.
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Its free speech even though l don't agree with them and if you limit free speech then you are on your way to a dictatorship..
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