11-04-2019, 00:24
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Re: Brexit
No need ... no second referendum, no revocation. That from a Brexiteer- I.e., me. Simples.
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11-04-2019, 00:29
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Chris
If you understood what is happening at the moment you would understand that what you’ve just said is entirely irrelevant tonight.
The process that is underway is dictated by the Treaty of Lisbon, parts of which were drafted by British negotiators and all of which was accepted by the British Government and ratified by the British Parliament.
The 27 remaining member states are doing what law which we agreed while we were members says they must do.
Getting it now?
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You have kindly typed the above in response to my point that size matters in negotiations but none of it disproves this point.
But I appreciate that protocol dictates that Theresa May cannot attend all discussions about the UK.
Last edited by 1andrew1; 11-04-2019 at 00:37.
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11-04-2019, 01:25
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Re: Brexit
EU: 'Course of action in UK's hands'
Speaking at a news conference, European Council president Donald Tusk says: "Tonight the EU decided to grant the UK a flexible extension.. until 31 October.
"During this time the course of action will be in the UK's hands."
but there bullying us NOTTTTTTTT
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11-04-2019, 01:52
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Re: Brexit
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When Vote Leave was found guilty of breaking the law. This is what @chrisinsilico and I had to say. And it still very much stands. It doesn't matter whether you voted leave or remain. A second referendum is the most sensible and democratic option. #FinalSay
https://twitter.com/shahmiruk/status...77757664665600
that from a brexiteer should watch video in link
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As we are talking about the law and statute. Can you, @shahmiruk or @chrisinsilco state or quote where in statute a referendum has to be re-run when an orgaisation has been found guilty of financial irregularities?
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EU: 'Course of action in UK's hands'
Speaking at a news conference, European Council president Donald Tusk says: "Tonight the EU decided to grant the UK a flexible extension.. until 31 October.
"During this time the course of action will be in the UK's hands."
but there bullying us NOTTTTTTTT
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No, they're hoping the remainers in parliament have time to overturn the democratic referendum result.
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11-04-2019, 02:27
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Re: Brexit
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As we are talking about the law and statute. Can you, @shahmiruk or @chrisinsilco state or quote where in statute a referendum has to be re-run when an orgaisation has been found guilty of financial irregularities?
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No, they're hoping the remainers in parliament have time to overturn the democratic referendum result.
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we would been out now if the brexiteers in parliament voted for brexit lots of remain mps did
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11-04-2019, 04:11
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
As we are talking about the law and statute. Can you, @shahmiruk or @chrisinsilco state or quote where in statute a referendum has to be re-run when an orgaisation has been found guilty of financial irregularities?
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No, they're hoping the remainers in parliament have time to overturn the democratic referendum result.
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Where does it say we can’t? It’s an advisory referendum anyway. No Parliament can bind a successor, etc. Round and round we go for another 6 months.
There’s no point in placing too much emphasis on primary legislation any more anyway. If it can be enacted in three sitting days there’s plenty of time to make some.
Last edited by jfman; 11-04-2019 at 04:28.
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11-04-2019, 07:49
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Dave42
we would been out now if the brexiteers in parliament voted for brexit lots of remain mps did
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Spot on. Leave snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by a series of own goals! They're now blaming the other side for scoring one goal.
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11-04-2019, 08:14
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Re: Brexit
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Spot on. Leave snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by a series of own goals! They're now blaming the other side for scoring one goal.
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So far May’s incompetent road to Brexit involves.
-Two years nine months of talks
-Three historic defeats in Parliament
-Three humiliating summits
And then May turns round and blames the MPs with this quote.
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‘I have voted three times to leave the EU, If sufficient members of parliament had voted with me in we would already be out of EU’
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11-04-2019, 08:23
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Re: Brexit
I think it's pretty weird/ironic that the Brexiters best ally in the EU is arch-Europhile Macron and not the right-wing governments Farage had hoped would Veto. Obviously they have different aims but without France the deadline would be March 2020 which would have thrown everything up in the air, more so than October.
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So far May’s incompetent road to Brexit involves.
-Two years nine months of talks
-Three historic defeats in Parliament
-Three humiliating summits
And then May turns round and blames the MPs with this quote.
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Well it's sort of true. Parliament didn't just fail to agree her deal but any alternative action either.
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11-04-2019, 08:37
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Dave42
we would been out now if the brexiteers in parliament voted for brexit lots of remain mps did
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FFS- How many more times do I have to say the WA concocted by the Remainers in Government and the EU, it is not Brexit. Have you actually read the agreement ?
It is an agreement, only a country would only agree to, if it has been defeated in war.
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Originally Posted by Chris
No need ... no second referendum, no revocation. That from a Brexiteer- I.e., me. Simples.
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Absolutely. Let’s get the hell out of this cancerous EU. Stop paying £50 Million a day for this con job membership and start trading on WTO terms. AND ignore all the pathetic fear mongering bullshit from the other side that has lied from day one and got all negative predictions totally wrong so far. Simples.
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11-04-2019, 08:42
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Also Parliament should break for Easter recess now IMO. Immediate deadline has gone and they seem a bit overburdened. A couple of weeks away from London to calm down might not be the worst decision.
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11-04-2019, 08:47
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
Also Parliament should break for Easter recess now IMO. Immediate deadline has gone and they seem a bit overburdened. A couple of weeks away from London to calm down might not be the worst decision.
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Agreed. Parliament should now set a good example on the work-life balance and mental health.
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11-04-2019, 08:57
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Re: Brexit
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Agreed. Parliament should now set a good example on the work-life balance and mental health.
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Peace in our time for a couple of weeks at least...
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11-04-2019, 08:58
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Re: Brexit
The repeated delays are just there to try and bully MPs into passing the Withdrawal Agreement, which has not, and will not be changed.
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11-04-2019, 08:59
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Agreed. Parliament should now set a good example on the work-life balance and mental health.
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Forget their mental health. What about the country?
Whether we are leavers or remainers. I’m not sure the country can take another 6 months of this shit. May needs to go, call an election, hold a second referendum so leave can win again, I don’t care. Just end this vicious circle ⭕️ .
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