20-05-2021, 17:57
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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All this about us having to take US beef filled with crap and Chlorinated Chicken is BS.
They can sell it here, but we don't have to buy it.
I buy all the food in my household and I buy British meat 100% of the time.
So when we don't buy it they will stop selling it.
Listening to Adrian Chiles this morning he was talking to a Lamb farmer, and they said their biggest problem is the false rubbish said by vegan groups.
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If you're buying in a pub or kebab van, the country of origin is not usually disclosed.
The lamb farmer's biggest problem at the moment may be veganism but the debate is not about the now, it's about the future if we did agree an FTA with Australia.
If you saw my post from a few days ago on this when I outlined the two factions in the Cabinet, you will have read Michael Gove's concerns about the impact on farmers in Scotland and Wales and how it might encourage independence.
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20-05-2021, 19:23
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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If you're buying in a pub or kebab van, the country of origin is not usually disclosed.
The lamb farmer's biggest problem at the moment may be veganism but the debate is not about the now, it's about the future if we did agree an FTA with Australia.
If you saw my post from a few days ago on this when I outlined the two factions in the Cabinet, you will have read Michael Gove's concerns about the impact on farmers in Scotland and Wales and how it might encourage independence.
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And how exactly would independence help farmers, or indeed anybody else. in Scotland and Wales.  Eg They would automatically face tariffs for exporting to England and everywhere else.
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20-05-2021, 19:53
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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And how exactly would independence help farmers, or indeed anybody else. in Scotland and Wales. Eg They would automatically face tariffs for exporting to England and everywhere else. |
I suggest you share you insights with Michael Gove. He might equally ask you "How does putting farmers predominantly in Wales and Scotland out of work make the case for the Union?"
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20-05-2021, 20:04
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I suggest you share you insights with Michael Gove. He might equally ask you "How does putting farmers predominantly in Wales and Scotland out of work make the case for the Union?"
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And how exactly would England no longer propping them up, keep them in work or anything else?
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20-05-2021, 20:14
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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And how exactly would England no longer propping them up, keep them in work or anything else?
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Michael Gove's concerns were about the impact of the deal on Scottish and Welsh farmers and how something potentially negative imposed on them by Westminster encourages independence. It doesn't take much imagination to understand that he may have a point.
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20-05-2021, 21:10
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
All this about us having to take US beef filled with crap and Chlorinated Chicken is BS.
They can sell it here, but we don't have to buy it.
I buy all the food in my household and I buy British meat 100% of the time.
So when we don't buy it they will stop selling it.
Listening to Adrian Chiles this morning he was talking to a Lamb farmer, and they said their biggest problem is the false rubbish said by vegan groups.
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Your talking bs, the American lobby groups have seen to it already, they won't have to lable it
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21-05-2021, 09:28
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Seems to me having a southern hemisphere source of meat would be good to continue proper seasonal supply.
The Welsh hill lamb is later in season than the English and low land lamb, then we can look at hogart and mutton too. All following in season, then we bring in NZ lamb while we aren't using ours. Can we do the same with beef? With care and the right deal(s) we get and maybe provide better seasonal produce.
That said once the big retail boys get their finger in it just becomes a numbers thing and smaller producers lose out as they nearly always have done. So buy your meat locally from farm shops, farmers markets etc check providence. It's likely to be better and probably not more expensive than the supermarkets. But then I like spending time buying my meat and others don't or can't.
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21-05-2021, 09:36
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Re: Britain outside the EU
How was previously having the EU as a tariff-free zone not a problem, but a 15-year phased one with Australia is?
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21-05-2021, 09:52
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Spot on about the big retail boys tweetiepooh, many of the contracts they have with 'suppliers' is akin to holding a gun at their heads.
I'm sure many have read about the dairy farmers and milk fiasco . . tip of the iceberg 
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21-05-2021, 10:10
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
If you're buying in a pub or kebab van, the country of origin is not usually disclosed.
The lamb farmer's biggest problem at the moment may be veganism but the debate is not about the now, it's about the future if we did agree an FTA with Australia.
If you saw my post from a few days ago on this when I outlined the two factions in the Cabinet, you will have read Michael Gove's concerns about the impact on farmers in Scotland and Wales and how it might encourage independence.
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But some pubs/restaurants will say "using local produce"
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Your talking bs, the American lobby groups have seen to it already, they won't have to label it
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British food will have the red tractor on it though.
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21-05-2021, 11:25
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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But some pubs/restaurants will say "using local produce".
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That doesn't contradict what I said.
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21-05-2021, 16:10
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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But some pubs/restaurants will say "using local produce"
British food will have the red tractor on it though.
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They won't when they see the price, even Australian farmers can't compete with American because they don't care about hygiene, working conditions or pretty much anything else and I wouldn't be so sure about a little red tractor riding to the rescue either, they're so litigious over trade they'll probably say it's unfair competition
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21-05-2021, 16:47
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
They won't when they see the price, even Australian farmers can't compete with American because they don't care about hygiene, working conditions or pretty much anything else and I wouldn't be so sure about a little red tractor riding to the rescue either, they're so litigious over trade they'll probably say it's unfair competition
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I've no idea where you buy your Christmas Crackers from, but the jokes are absolute shite 
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21-05-2021, 16:50
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I've no idea where you buy your Christmas Crackers from, but the jokes are absolute shite |
Or you could educate yourself, 4od The Truth About Chlorinated Chicken is a good place to start
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21-05-2021, 16:55
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Re: Britain outside the EU
All the chicken I've cooked or eaten in the USA tastes great.
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