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Old 18-01-2018, 13:28   #1
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Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

Just got an email from VM telling me they're planning to change home user's superhubs into wi-fi hot spots. I have a SH2 and it's the first I've heard of this but is it anything to be concerned about?
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

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Just got an email from VM telling me they're planning to change home user's superhubs into wi-fi hot spots. I have a SH2 and it's the first I've heard of this but is it anything to be concerned about?

You can opt out as far as I'm aware, although you won't be able to use any of the hot spots via the Virginmedia app if you do.

It's basically what BT do with their hubs and shouldn't impact your connection.
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Old 18-01-2018, 14:21   #3
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

BT have done this for years. As a BT customer I have often benefited from access to such hotspots wherever I am in the country. At home I have never suffered from having my bandwidth shared because it is quite tightly managed and only releases a small portion of it for the hotspot to use.

If they implement it like BT the hotspot will have a completely different name and IP address but you won't be able to influence the way it works in any way. No blocking protocols, ports, setting up access schedules, a DMZ or anything else you might like to do with your home router.
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Old 18-01-2018, 14:35   #4
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

I wonder how much power it consumes? And what happens to your access to the hotspots if you habitually turn your router off at night?
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Old 18-01-2018, 14:38   #5
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

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You can opt out as far as I'm aware, although you won't be able to use any of the hot spots via the Virginmedia app if you do.
Actually opting out your own hotspot doesn't affect your ability to use the rest of the Virgin Media WiFi service.

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BT have done this for years. As a BT customer I have often benefited from access to such hotspots wherever I am in the country. At home I have never suffered from having my bandwidth shared because it is quite tightly managed and only releases a small portion of it for the hotspot to use.
It works differently to BT. A separate service flow is added to the Hub, so it doesn't take anything away from your home connection. Whereas my understand is that for BT it takes some of the overall sync speed for the extra WiFi connection.

So for instance instead of having one 100Mb config, there is for instance 100Mb + 20Mb.

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I'd also point out that this has been running on the Hub 3.0 for ages:

http://www.cableforum.uk/board/showt...php?t=33703961
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

Haven't had an email yet, so SH2 are becoming hotspots as well as SH3?
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Old 18-01-2018, 15:25   #7
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

The 2ac are, the older 2 isn't.
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

ive not had this email and a SH3 user here.
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Old 18-01-2018, 17:21   #9
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

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ive not had this email and a SH3 user here.
Depends when you got the Hub 3.0

They were switched on early last year, so those customers who already had a Hub 3.0 at that point would have been notified.

Anyone else who got a Hub 3.0 afterwards are covered by the existing T&Cs, and the Hub would have been automatically opted in:
http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/the-...ces.html#using

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H9. We reserve the right to automatically enable any additional and separate bandwidth on the equipment we provide in order to offer a separate wireless local area network (Wi-Fi Hotspot) for other customers in the local area to connect to.
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

What about if it's in Modem mode?
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

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What about if it's in Modem mode?
Automatically opted out as all the WiFi features of the Hub are disabled.
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

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Automatically opted out as all the WiFi features of the Hub are disabled.
That must mean that the Hub "informs" VM when it is in modem mode.
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That must mean that the Hub "informs" VM when it is in modem mode.
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

If you're using a VM phone/SIM, then the Hub settings are irrelevant.
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Re: Superhub turning into wi-fi hot spot.

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That must mean that the Hub "informs" VM when it is in modem mode.
Yes, there are lots of things that Virgin Media can see about both the broadband and TV kit as part of diagnostic tools.
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