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Well, if you're going to persist with your accusation, then "carrots don't have to be a certain length" and "bananas don't have to have a certain curvature" are, of course self-standing truths.
You do know that the request for classification and gratings of things such as Banana's was made to the EU from member states and specifically from the retail industry within each of those member states. It's done so that retailers know what they're ordering.
If the EU have banned all this kind of thing, why can you buy 'wonky' fruit and veg from retailers such as Morrisons/Aldi & Lidl. Unless of course you're suggesting that these three are breaking the law of course ?
How would you feel if you went to a petrol station to purchase premium petrol or diesel to find out that instead of getting 98 or 99 RON you instead got 95 or E85+10 ?
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You do know that the request for classification and gratings of things such as Banana's was made to the EU from member states and specifically from the retail industry within each of those member states. It's done so that retailers know what they're ordering.
If the EU have banned all this kind of thing, why can you buy 'wonky' fruit and veg from retailers such as Morrisons/Aldi & Lidl. Unless of course you're suggesting that these three are breaking the law of course ?
How would you feel if you went to a petrol station to purchase premium petrol or diesel to find out that instead of getting 98 or 99 RON you instead got 95 or E85+10 ?
That's different, because that would affect performance. Frankly, I don't care what shape my banana is, as long as it tastes good.
True, but that's not the only situation where the others can outvote us. Fishing quotas would be one; CAP, etc.
Looking at the graphs here - https://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/doe...-of-ministers/ it looks like we lose on agriculture votes ~18% of the time and fisheries ~5% of the time. I guess it depends how many times is too many times to be outvoted but it does show at least that the EU is democratic
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Looking at the graphs here - https://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/doe...-of-ministers/ it looks like we lose on agriculture votes ~18% of the time and fisheries ~5% of the time. I guess it depends how many times is too many times to be outvoted but it does show at least that the EU is democratic
It’s a tad more complicated than that because the negotiators work hard for consensus before it gets to a vote. We may lose at the vote only a few times but on plenty of other occasions we will have given ground earlier in the process. British fishermen have long complained that the CFP and its quota system hits them disproportionately hard, suggesting that we may have given away too much in negotiations and/or lost crucial votes.
Yes, Grieve wasn't one of the Conservatives' best performers. About time they replaced him as he does seem to have lost the plot.
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Obviously quite an intelligent electorate, then.
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Brexit is a divisive issue for all parties, frankly.
If you really think that Labour are in a better position than the Conservatives on the Brexit question, you are not paying attention.
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Dominic Grieve, I'm afraid, is one of those MPs who has disrupted the process to the extent that it has caused the degree of public dissatisfaction with the way in which our road to Brexit has been blocked.
I have absolutely no sympathy with him. Call himself a democrat? Pull the other one. The nation voted to LEAVE.
Let's jolly well leave, then. And if they won't agree to leaving with a deal, then let's leave with a no deal. It's not really rocket science.
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Dominic Grieve is not being de-selected.
A letter to him from his Constituency Chairman.
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Looking at the graphs here - https://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/doe...-of-ministers/ it looks like we lose on agriculture votes ~18% of the time and fisheries ~5% of the time. I guess it depends how many times is too many times to be outvoted but it does show at least that the EU is democratic
That may be so - but it's no use to us when on the big issues they can outvote us and that may well be included in the 18% and 5%.
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Dominic Grieve is not being de-selected.
A letter to him from his Constituency Chairman.
To paraphrase that letter: "You are a ******* but you've got between now and the General Election to come right.
It’s ok the Anti-Democratic scumbag will be ousted when he’s not re-elected at next election.
Tbh I've got respect for a politician that doesn't care about their re-election chances, and just does what they think to be right. Not many of them about.
Tbh I've got respect for a politician that doesn't care about their re-election chances, and just does what they think to be right. Not many of them about.
He’s not right though- destroying democracy is nothing to be proud of. And We will be far better out of a corrupt and failing union. Anti-EU sentiment is on rise because people are finally realising just how much of a dictatorship it has become. Still see that Guy Verhofstadt, standing in the EU parliament, insisting Member States surrender their sovereignty and hand it all over to the EU.
He’s not right though- destroying democracy is nothing to be proud of. And We will be far better out of a corrupt and failing union. Anti-EU sentiment is on rise because people are finally realising just how much of a dictatorship it has become. Still see that Guy Verhofstadt, standing in the EU parliament, insisting Member States surrender their sovereignty and hand it all over to the EU.
Voters have just told the two main Brexit-supporting parties where to sling their hooks! Instead, they wisely gave a solidly pro-EU party a staggering extra 700 seats!
Poll after poll shows public support increasing to remain in the world's largest and most successful trading bloc. Fortunately, we're still in it.
Voters have just told the two main Brexit-supporting parties where to sling their hooks! Instead, they wisely gave a solidly pro-EU party a staggering extra 700 seats!
Poll after poll shows public support increasing to remain in the world's largest and most successful trading bloc. Fortunately, we're still in it.
You obviously didn’t watch the video Chris posted earlier of Prof Curtice. Voters have done no such thing. And the polls show no such thing. Stop lying.
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John Curtice, high priest of pollsters, says there’s no evidence that people are switching to the Lib Dems out of Remain sentiment.
Guido Fawkes is finding that the LDs are doing well where they have historically been strong, have a well organised local operation and, in many cases, have totally avoided talking about Brexit or Vince Cable on the doorstep.
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