UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[Mr K]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51149531

Millionaire businessman Arron Banks and the Leave Means Leave group have donated £50,000 to a campaign to make Big Ben ring when the UK leaves the EU.

An online appeal has raised more than £200,000, with the cost of making the famous bell work in time for the one-off event estimated to be £500,000.

Big Ben is being renovated, but the PM this week suggested a fund be set up to make it chime at 23:00 on 31 January.

What a pathetic waste of money, £500k to make a bell bong ! Maybe the money would be better directed at the food banks in this country ?

Just shows the individuals concerned are totally out of touch with the rest of the country. Surely time to come to together rather than trying to stoke division again. Can't see this going down well with many Brexiteers either.

[Sephiroth]

I believe the Brexit Bill has cleared the Lords without amendment.

On a different note, the anti-democratic forces of the EU Parliament (principally its President) has ruled that the little national flags that identify (for the viewer) which country is talking or sitting where, cannot be placed on the desks! What a shower.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I believe the Brexit Bill has cleared the Lords without amendment.

On a different note, the anti-democratic forces of the EU Parliament (principally its President) has ruled that the little national flags that identify (for the viewer) which country is talking or sitting where, cannot be placed on the desks! What a shower.

we won't be bothered after the 31 jan,they're taking away national identities ready for the big merging into one super pile of dung.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51149531


What a pathetic waste of money, £500k to make a bell bong ! Maybe the money would be better directed at the food banks in this country ?

Just shows the individuals concerned are totally out of touch with the rest of the country. Surely time to come to together rather than trying to stoke division again. Can't see this going down well with many Brexiteers either.

Apparently the “Brexit Bong” incurs a heavy uplift.......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...imes-sounding/

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Apparently the “Brexit Bong” incurs a heavy uplift.......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...imes-sounding/

£5 is too much too much to waste on this irrelevance, let alone £500k. It sums up Brexit, a flag waving, bell bonging , xenophobic amusement for those rich few it won't affect. Doubtless they'll be drinking Champagne (from France), whilst they lust after their blue French made passports.

[richard s]

http://www.google.co.uk/search?dcr=0...30.kzTaNp7MCYs


Was it Bong or Boing....

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

£5 is too much too much to waste on this irrelevance, let alone £500k. It sums up Brexit, a flag waving, bell bonging , xenophobic amusement for those rich few it won't affect. Doubtless they'll be drinking Champagne (from France), whilst they lust after their blue French made passports.

I think they should have loud speakers playing laughing for an hour,so we [leavers] can all enjoy the moment

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I think they should have loud speakers playing laughing for an hour,so we [leavers] can all enjoy the moment

Yes, but it'll be a moment. Reality comes the next day when you realise you're still paying into the EU, obeying all its rules, but have no voting rights. Party on !

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes, but it'll be a moment. Reality comes the next day when you realise you're still paying into the EU, obeying all its rules, but have no voting rights. Party on !

It's great to see you so upbeat and not bitter and twisted by brexit.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

It's great to see you so upbeat and not bitter and twisted by brexit.

It's also great to see you're still deluded, guess it helps

Originally Posted by Pierre

Apparently the “Brexit Bong” incurs a heavy uplift.......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...imes-sounding/

Basic Project/Change Management - you want a change to plan, and you have six to twelve months to arrange the work, the work plan can be amended so the work is done at normal costing levels - you want it done in a compressed timescale with very little notice, it will cost a lot more; not just the cost of getting the work done at an elevated rate, because of the short time scale, but also the cost of all the work and resources you had planned in that time (and the time and resources it takes to get back on to the original plan).

A spokesman for the House of Commons said: "The striking of Big Ben on these occasions was coordinated around the planned works so as to minimise the impact on the project costs and to ensure it did not result in any delay.

"If the project team are required to strike the bell with less notice, the costs would substantially increase due to the unexpected impact on the project schedule.

"The cost of striking the bell for New Year’s Eve and Remembrance Sunday has been factored in to the planned programme well in advance, to ensure that testing and striking have no impact on planned works, therefore causing no delay and minimum cost.

“The estimated cost is £120,000 to sound the bell, plus circa £100,000 for each week of delays.

"This estimate is based on the fixed cost of installing, testing, operating and dismantling the temporary mechanism used to sound the bell during the works, plus an allowance for each week that work on the project is delayed.

"As such, the minimum cost of sounding Big Ben would be £320,000 but could be up to £500,000.”

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

£5 is too much too much to waste on this irrelevance, let alone £500k. It sums up Brexit, a flag waving, bell bonging , xenophobic amusement for those rich few it won't affect. Doubtless they'll be drinking Champagne (from France), whilst they lust after their blue French made passports.

I agree. I think celebrating Brexit would be distasteful, very un-British and insulting to our former EU partners who have done nothing wrong to us.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I agree. I think celebrating Brexit would be distasteful, very un-British and insulting to our former EU partners who have done nothing wrong to us.

OK, who’s hacked Pierre’s account?

[Sephiroth]

Why are we debating this silly bong business? Is it the dearth of Brexit news that makes us grab these miserable crumbs?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

OK, who’s hacked Pierre’s account?

May come across as weird, but I think I’ve been consistent over the years.

I voted remain. My anger over Brexit was, and has never been with the EU, with the U.K. parliamentarians.

I abhor relating EU membership and Brexit with WW2 etc. Totally hate it and reject it.

It fuels the “little englander” moniker that Mr K likes to trot out, but detracts from the reasons for Brexit that I believe being a little englander was not one.

I have no malice to the EU, but the more I looked at it over the last three years the more I believed the EU was not something I could believe in. Pre-Brexit I hadn’t given it any thought.

But now, decision made, decision soon to be implemented, move on, look to the future. I can see the attraction of rubbing the remainers nose in it after the last three years but that is not how I was brought up.

Win and lose graciously.