06-11-2019, 00:23
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
As Parliament officially dissolved today (0001 hrs, Wednesday), we are now officially in Week 1 of a 5 week election campaign, so this version of the election thread will remain open for one further week.
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06-11-2019, 09:20
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
Jezza's hot on the campaign trail,he's going to abolish wealth and put up benefits,abolish the full working week and work towards destroying the economy, it's a great vision for the future.
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06-11-2019, 09:39
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
Venezuela here we come.
Keir Starmer in a car crash interview that made Diane Abbot's look like a minor fender bender:
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Quote from The Sun:At the start of a torrid day for Labour, Sir Keir was skewered on ITV’s Good Morning Britain show. Presenter Susanna Reid asked the Shadow Cabinet minister five times how Labour would campaign in a second referendum.
Unable to give a straight answer, he blustered: “Well, in a sense, what I campaign for is secondary because what we are saying is that it is for the country to decide. We’re saying less power to politicians, that’s where we have been struck for the last 3½ years.”
Ms Reid asked him again if Labour wanted Britain to leave the EU or remain. An almost incoherent Sir Keir muttered: “The Labour party says we are going to put this choice, before you.”
He also revealed that while he will be in charge of Labour’s bid to renegotiate Brexit, he has already ruled out voting for the deal in a second referendum. Instead he wants Britain to Remain. But challenged on this bizarre stance, the rattled frontbencher said: “That is missing the point.”
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Video and comment on red link above.
Susanna Reid?!? Hardly a John Humphreys. 
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06-11-2019, 10:21
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
It's all a massive car crash isn't it
They should shove all this election stuff on CBBC where it belongs
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06-11-2019, 10:36
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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The real problem there is that his tasks include investigating political parties. Bit of a conflict of interest.
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06-11-2019, 11:13
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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There are two 'stories', one is probably true, one is probably false, but how does anyone know which is which?
Not that it really matters, floating pro EU voters will probably vote for them anyway, and anti EU will give them a miss.
The only people that it may influence are those who don't have a clue what to do, and believe everything they want to believe |
The point of stuff like this is to tip the balance for those on the edge, rather than committed voters (one way or the other) - enough stuff like this (on either side) has been shown to sway the undecided.
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06-11-2019, 12:19
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
Alun Cairns resigns as Welsh secretary over claim did not tell truth about discredited aide.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ment-135188174
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06-11-2019, 14:05
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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Good start to the campaign. Resignations, scandal and gaffes. And it’s only the first day.
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06-11-2019, 14:21
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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Good start to the campaign. Resignations, scandal and gaffes. And it’s only the first day.
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Perhaps they need a few tips from Theresa May and her team. 
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06-11-2019, 15:12
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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Perhaps they need a few tips from Theresa May and her team. |
They seem to have already received them
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06-11-2019, 16:31
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
Owen Jones leads ‘hundreds’ of campaigners to unseat Tory MP
LABOUR activist Owen Jones and left-wing group Momentum have been left red-faced after planning a campaigning event in Putney tonight to unseat Tory MP Justine Greening despite her already announcing she is standing down.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...stine-greening
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06-11-2019, 17:10
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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Owen Jones leads ‘hundreds’ of campaigners to unseat Tory MP
LABOUR activist Owen Jones and left-wing group Momentum have been left red-faced after planning a campaigning event in Putney tonight to unseat Tory MP Justine Greening despite her already announcing she is standing down.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...stine-greening |
The Left has lost its way. The confusion over Brexit is just the tip of the iceberg.
As for Owen Jones, where do I start?
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06-11-2019, 17:31
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
Confusion over Brexit isn’t going to work for the whole campaign. Sooner or later eventually the (pretty clear) message is going to hit home.
Labour deal or remain - and the Labour Party will remain neutral. It’s not rocket science.
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06-11-2019, 18:18
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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Originally Posted by jfman
Confusion over Brexit isn’t going to work for the whole campaign. Sooner or later eventually the (pretty clear) message is going to hit home.
Labour deal or remain - and the Labour Party will remain neutral. It’s not rocket science.
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One can understand rocket science but Labour brexit gibberish is beyond me 
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The Left has lost its way. The confusion over Brexit is just the tip of the iceberg.
As for Owen Jones, where do I start?
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He hasn't been the same since that good kicking outside the pub.
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06-11-2019, 19:03
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1
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Originally Posted by jfman
Confusion over Brexit isn’t going to work for the whole campaign. Sooner or later eventually the (pretty clear) message is going to hit home.
Labour deal or remain - and the Labour Party will remain neutral. It’s not rocket science.
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No, that's not quite right, jfman. Labour stands for re-negotiated deal including a customs union or remain - and the Labour Party will campaign against its own deal.
An absolutely preposterous and confusing position to take.
By the way, the existing withdrawal agreement on offer already keeps us in the customs union, so he clearly means he wants a trade deal including the customs union. That means we won't have a say on the EU legislation that affects us and we cannot make any trade deals, which is the raison d'etre of Brexit. Basically, we would be better staying in the EU if ever it was seriously suggested that this was what was being negotiated.
As I said - totally confused.
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