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Old 27-08-2012, 14:41   #1
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HomePlug problems when PC & Adaptor in same wall socket

Hi,

I have a homeplug network set up with a pair of TP-Link PA211's. They were working fine until we moved the PC to a different room - the network more or less stopped working (upload OK, but download more or less non-existent).

I tried connecting the homeplug into a different socket (actually not on the same ring) and it started working (even though it was plugged into an extension lead).

So i figured maybe it was the wall socket.

I just replaced the face-plate on the wall socket & it seemed to work (had my laptop plugged into it & nice & fast). But when i plugged the PC into the same socket, the connection died again.

Various configurations later it seems certain that the PC itself is killing the signal.

What is weird is that it worked OK in a different room...

It looks like the PC is generating noise on electrical line which is causing poor performance. I have tried plugging PC into a surge protected strip (NOT the powerline adaptor), but no change.

Do you have any suggestions - e.g. a specific type of surge protector to use etc. - i dont know if the one I have tried has got any EMI/RFI filter - would this make any difference - i.e. would it reduce any interference coming out of the PC, or does it only do it in the other direction?

This is a new PC build with good quality components.

I've currently gone back to trailing an extension lead into the room & plugging the home-plug into that, with the PC in the room's wall socket.

Thanks.
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Re: HomePlug problems when PC & Adaptor in same wall socket

Do you have different ring mains for your sockets? I've found in the past that this sort of device only works well if the sockets are on the same ring.
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Re: HomePlug problems when PC & Adaptor in same wall socket

Your PC has mains noise suppression filters in its power supply. These will shunt noise and high frequency signals (which is what the HomePlug uses).
This will have less of an effect the further the PC filters are away from the source (HomePlug) due to inductance in the mains cabling. The reactance increases with distance and you ideally need a large amount of reactance between both devices.
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Re: HomePlug problems when PC & Adaptor in same wall socket

I had the same problem with my TP Link homeplugs, so I have now got the homeplug directly into the wall socket and the pc etc. plugged into a 3 metre surge protected extension lead.
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Re: HomePlug problems when PC & Adaptor in same wall socket

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I had the same problem with my TP Link homeplugs, so I have now got the homeplug directly into the wall socket and the pc etc. plugged into a 3 metre surge protected extension lead.
Thanks - I'll get a decent surge lead & give it a go. Should probably have one anyway.

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Do you have different ring mains for your sockets? I've found in the past that this sort of device only works well if the sockets are on the same ring.
The two adapters are on different rings (one upstairs one down) & worked fine in one bedroom, when we moved the PC the other bedroom it stopped working properly.

I have just had a look at the socket in the room where it worked fine & that socket is on a ring circuit, whereas in the new room the socket is a spur.

Do you think that being on a spur might cause problems?

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Your PC has mains noise suppression filters in its power supply. These will shunt noise and high frequency signals (which is what the HomePlug uses).
This will have less of an effect the further the PC filters are away from the source (HomePlug) due to inductance in the mains cabling. The reactance increases with distance and you ideally need a large amount of reactance between both devices.

I have just had a look at the socket in the room where it worked fine & that socket is on a ring circuit, whereas in the new room the socket is a spur.

Do you think that being on a spur might cause problems?
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Being on a spur shouldn't make a difference
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