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Old 15-08-2018, 17:31   #31
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Would be nice to know for VIP
£129 it's advertised at.
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Old 15-08-2018, 17:34   #32
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That will help a few people on here to get out of their contracts they are locked in.
Hardly, most contracts are usually priced in when it comes to marginal increases / RPI adjustments etc. In fact, it is usually stated at the beginning of a contract period / re-contracting whether the prices will stay frozen or not.

If it is not explicitly stated as such, prices usually are fine to increase at whatever rate - you are bound to remain in contract. Not bound to remain in contract at that price, unless they specify as much.
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Old 15-08-2018, 17:48   #33
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Hardly, most contracts are usually priced in when it comes to marginal increases / RPI adjustments etc. In fact, it is usually stated at the beginning of a contract period / re-contracting whether the prices will stay frozen or not.

If it is not explicitly stated as such, prices usually are fine to increase at whatever rate - you are bound to remain in contract. Not bound to remain in contract at that price, unless they specify as much.
If people's prices rise mid contract they are entitled to leave penalty free.
It's easily done with the likes of Virgin Media and Sky etc, but you can't do the same thing with mobile phone contracts.

See here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...-increase/amp/
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Old 15-08-2018, 17:49   #34
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£129 it's advertised at.
So no change for VIP.
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Old 15-08-2018, 17:55   #35
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If people's prices rise mid contract they are entitled to leave penalty free.
It's easily done with the likes of Virgin Media and Sky etc, but you can't do the same thing with mobile phone contracts.

See here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...-increase/amp/
I suppose that is why my husband keeps getting offers to "re-contract" for like 12 to 18 months, and they agree to freeze the price...

With phones though, they state that within the original 18 to 24 month contract the price remains frozen except for the annual RPI change so it really works out the same difference.
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Old 15-08-2018, 18:01   #36
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Re: 2018 price rises

Damn £4 a month increase for me thats a bit naff. Be interesting to see where all these £3/£4 additional payments go. I'm sure my pack went up about £3 already this year thats a £7 rise in 2018. We are talking Millions gained this year from just the price rises.

Its a shame you couldn't pay per channel you wanted would probably save a lot of money I probably only watch around a mix of 30 channels.
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Old 15-08-2018, 18:07   #37
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I suppose that is why my husband keeps getting offers to "re-contract" for like 12 to 18 months, and they agree to freeze the price...

With phones though, they state that within the original 18 to 24 month contract the price remains frozen except for the annual RPI change so it really works out the same difference.
Yes, that sounds right to me.

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Damn £4 a month increase for me thats a bit naff. Be interesting to see where all these £3/£4 additional payments go. I'm sure my pack went up about £3 already this year thats a £7 rise in 2018. We are talking Millions gained this year from just the price rises.

Its a shame you couldn't pay per channel you wanted would probably save a lot of money I probably only watch around a mix of 30 channels.
Perfect opportunity to ring them up and play your face. I ring them up every year when there's a price increase and always say I'm leaving. They usually cover the increase or at least most of it and usually for 18 months as well.
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Old 15-08-2018, 18:15   #38
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So no change for VIP.
VIP is currently priced at £125, so a £4 increase.
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Old 15-08-2018, 18:20   #39
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Re: 2018 price rises

One thing where new customers do seem to be slightly better off is that they avoid the 20 upfront for activation, which is good, right?

Though a minimum of 3 to 4 extra every month and I guess they would rather have the activation fee.
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Yeah I just don't get how Virgin stay afloat on the TV side...I get that their broadband side is profitable and they have far better speeds than everyone else on an 80/20 system but on phone and TV offers they get crushed by Sky on price and content every which way.
According to Virgin, their TV, phone, broadband and mobile services are all profitable with Virgin TV enjoying similar margins to Sky TV (minus Sky premiums). They do not get crushed by Sky, BT, TalkTalk, Freeview, Freesat, Youview or anyone else which is why in Q2 they enjoyed record TV growth and in new build areas have so far (and at an early stage) taken 280,000 customers (representing over over 650,000 BB, TV & phone RGUs) from their rivals. TV is the product that gels the bundle and they remain the market leader for both broadband and traditional pay tv (subscription numbers) in their addressable areas.
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VIP is currently priced at £125, so a £4 increase.
And with the inevitable movies and sports rise from Sky you are probably looking at a yearly rise of around £10. Time for a Now TV season pass and drop of the TV from Virgin, just not worth the money anymore
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Old 15-08-2018, 18:53   #42
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According to Virgin, their TV, phone, broadband and mobile services are all profitable with Virgin TV enjoying similar margins to Sky TV (minus Sky premiums). They do not get crushed by Sky, BT, TalkTalk, Freeview, Freesat, Youview or anyone else which is why in Q2 they enjoyed record TV growth and in new build areas have so far (and at an early stage) taken 280,000 customers (representing over over 650,000 BB, TV & phone RGUs) from their rivals. TV is the product that gels the bundle and they remain the market leader for both broadband and traditional pay tv (subscription numbers) in their addressable areas.
That's exactly what I mean...parts of the bundle clearly are loss making so I am wondering how much they offset that with revenue additions from broadband etc.

Sky could lease out Sky sports to Virgin at such a rate that they had choice but to set the package at a certain cost to make it profitable. Sky then (presumably) discount it some for their own Sky customers undercutting Virgin who pay whatever Sky set as the price for their main networks. (Sports etc).

It doesn't work the other way round - Sky don't pay for any VM channels, do they?
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Here's a breakdown of the rise


Broadband-only – up to £3/mth.
Broadband and line rental – up to £3/mth.
The Player bundle – by £3/mth.
The Mix and Fun bundles – by £3.50/mth.
The Full House bundle – by £4/mth.

Anyone who joined after August 1st won't have a rise as it was already implemented for new customers
Seems a lot more than the £2.20 plus VAT average rise that VM are claiming. How they fiddled the average rise for their media releases always was a mystery
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That's exactly what I mean...parts of the bundle clearly are loss making so I am wondering how much they offset that with revenue additions from broadband etc.

Sky could lease out Sky sports to Virgin at such a rate that they had choice but to set the package at a certain cost to make it profitable. Sky then (presumably) discount it some for their own Sky customers undercutting Virgin who pay whatever Sky set as the price for their main networks. (Sports etc).

It doesn't work the other way round - Sky don't pay for any VM channels, do they?
Sky can not do that that. They are regulated by Ofcom to prevent them abusing their monopoly in the same way BT are.
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Huh...I never knew.

Must be rather coincidental that they keep offering cut price programing that they own the rights to though that may also be as my husband has been a customer for like 13 years now.

Thanks for the info - certainly explains how VM break even.

If Sky wanted to be cruel I suppose that they could just refuse to sell the rights of their network? They would lose the money they earn from VM though.

(Are you sure that they are prevented from doing so when it is not a case of hardware though? To provide the service for phone and broadband, Sky and others have to use BT's firm / hardware. It is not the same for Virgin as Sky has no monopoly at all).
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