Updated: Boris resigns as party leader
19-04-2022, 17:21
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
It's not the breaking of the rules that is the big issue here, it's the honesty to Parliament. Parliament (the legislative) exists as a check on the actions of the executive (Government) along with the courts. If the executive and its' officers are not honest to Parliament, then the link between the two is broken, breaking the (unwritten) constitution of the country.
Putting a hat on with 'Hyperbole' written on it, an executive pillar that does not and will not answer to the legislative and judicial pillars is a dictatorship
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Johnson could quite rightly say no rules were broken if that is what he was advised at the time. That is not him misleading Parliament but him being misled by his advisors.
The "rule" allegedly being broken is the one to stop the spread of the virus with different people meeting. These "parties" were allegedly with people who worked in close contact daily, not much chance of increasing spread there.
The only thing bad here is the Optics and the media frenzy.
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19-04-2022, 17:40
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The only thing bad here is the Optics and the media frenzy.
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So not the law breaking and lying which has generated the fines and resignations?
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19-04-2022, 17:44
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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You grabbed an 'example' from 7 years ago (which coincidentally also concerns a Tory) and is a thread with a mere 9 pages . . over 100 fewer than this one 
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19-04-2022, 17:46
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Johnson could quite rightly say no rules were broken if that is what he was advised at the time. That is not him misleading Parliament but him being misled by his advisors.
The "rule" allegedly being broken is the one to stop the spread of the virus with different people meeting. These "parties" were allegedly with people who worked in close contact daily, not much chance of increasing spread there.
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These are laws his Government implemented and which he went on TV multiple times to tell people to obey. If he really didn't understand them then he is grossly incompetent.
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19-04-2022, 17:47
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.
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19-04-2022, 17:50
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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You grabbed an 'example' from 7 years ago (which coincidentally also concerns a Tory) and is a thread with a mere 9 pages . . over 100 fewer than this one |
I'd go back further but the Tories have been in power for 12 years so seems a bit pointless.
And as the Theresa May years were mostly about Brexit and there is still a massive thread going on about that, I thought I'd go back before then.
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19-04-2022, 17:56
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
You can't find anything (apart from Brexit probably) that knocks the Government for over 100 pages?
Looks like I was right then . . . " I can't recall people on this forum doing that so vigorously over the years"
Give it up lads, you're making yourselves look stupid by chasing the media outrage over this 
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19-04-2022, 17:56
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.
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It wasn't a 'no cake' law he broke.
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19-04-2022, 18:00
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.
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Don’t worry, there are lots of other comestibles and libations yet to be revealed…
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19-04-2022, 18:00
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The PM has repeatedly apologised for this trivial matter, i can see no point in continuing to whine about it, there is only so much mileage in a slice of cake at work with your workmates.
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It wasn't a 'no cake' law he broke.
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It saddens me to say it but, my opinion is that this is nothing to do with cake, nothing to do with a party, but everything to do with Boris . . the man who delivered Brexit.*
*apologies for mentioning that word again
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19-04-2022, 18:00
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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It wasn't a 'no cake' law he broke.
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They know - it’s just deflection…
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19-04-2022, 18:08
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Carth
It saddens me to say it but, my opinion is that this is nothing to do with cake, nothing to do with a party, but everything to do with Boris . . the man who delivered Brexit.*
*apologies for mentioning that word again
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Fortunately, some of the keenest Brexiters on this forum haven't fallen for that line and are able to understand the importance of this issue.
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19-04-2022, 18:13
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Fortunately, some of the keenest Brexiters on this forum haven't fallen for that line and are able to understand the importance of this issue.
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Just my opinion Andrew, formed by my own thoughts and not due to the ongoing media circus many people seem to follow like it's a religion
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19-04-2022, 18:30
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Just my opinion Andrew, formed by my own thoughts and not due to the ongoing media circus many people seem to follow like it's a religion
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So, you’re not influenced, but you believe others are?
OK…
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19-04-2022, 18:32
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Just my opinion Andrew, formed by my own thoughts and not due to the ongoing media circus many people seem to follow like it's a religion
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Well you're loyal, no one can accuse you otherwise.
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