01-05-2019, 13:48
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Re: Brexit(New).
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
interestingly, I got my tax summary this morning
my lowest contribution was £150ish which was for the EU , then there was a significant increase to the next lowest which was overseas aid at £250ush
Relative to others are contributions to the EU are teeny.
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So think how much we'd save if we abolished the first and halved the second.
The amount we are paying for the 'privilege' of belonging to the EU is not teeny and would be better spent on those in this country who are in genuine need.
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Originally Posted by Mr K
You're getting addicted to these polls Mick ! Blue for Labour, Red for Tory ?
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If Remainers keep quoting polls at us, how would you expect Brexiteers to respond when the polls show what Remainers don't want to hear?
Fight fire with fire, I always say.
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01-05-2019, 15:24
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#1907
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Re: Brexit(New).
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
So think how much we'd save if we abolished the first and halved the second.
The amount we are paying for the 'privilege' of belonging to the EU is not teeny and would be better spent on those in this country who are in genuine need.
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You're getting addicted to these polls Mick ! Blue for Labour, Red for Tory ?
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If Remainers keep quoting polls at us, how would you expect Brexiteers to respond when the polls show what Remainers don't want to hear?
Fight fire with fire, I always say.
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01-05-2019, 16:10
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#1908
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by Damien
At least the Libs are Yellow
Mick not sure if you wanted to add UKIP?
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Added.
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01-05-2019, 16:29
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
Looks like TM is preparing the groundwork for a climb down over a Customs Union #BRINO
She really doesn't want those EU elections to happen, whatever the cost....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8894546.html
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01-05-2019, 18:14
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
I bet the Lib em voters what Brexit cancelled.
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01-05-2019, 21:48
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Re: Brexit(New).
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
So think how much we'd save if we abolished the first and halved the second.
The amount we are paying for the 'privilege' of belonging to the EU is not teeny and would be better spent on those in this country who are in genuine need.
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If Remainers keep quoting polls at us, how would you expect Brexiteers to respond when the polls show what Remainers don't want to hear?
Fight fire with fire, I always say.
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Welfare is one of if not the biggest proportion of where our taxes go, the problem is that money is mismanaged and misspent we need a functioning fit for purpose welfare system throwing more money at it won’t resolve the issue.
I’m quite happy with the contributions to the EU and overseas aid, in the grand scheme of things it’s an insignificant amount.
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02-05-2019, 07:09
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
Post removed attacking someone because of how they posted won’t be tolerated. If members don’t want to be civil then don’t bother posting, it’s no skin off my nose!
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02-05-2019, 07:40
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
I will not be voting, whats the point when non of them do what is asked off them.
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02-05-2019, 08:01
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by Sirius
I will not be voting, whats the point when non of them do what is asked off them.
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I get why you feel this way. But we have to preserve democracy. Politicians are accountable via the ballot box. Every vote should count.
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02-05-2019, 08:38
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10 yrs same company 😁
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Oh, I totally agree, but he’s not disruptive in that he is actively blocking legislation or disrupting meetings - he’s more like the guy who sits in a pub for four hours but only drinks a half pint; more of a niggle than an annoyance (we should re-brand him as Niggle Forage - an annoyance who scrounges everything he can, whilst not actually doing any of the work that he is paid for...).
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I do wonder what will happen to the Brexit party funds if we leave before the EU elections?
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02-05-2019, 09:08
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
May's Hokey Cokey deal that even now is being watered down to nothing is not leaving the EU so expect Brexit funds to grow and grow.
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02-05-2019, 09:27
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Re: Brexit(New).
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Welfare is one of if not the biggest proportion of where our taxes go, the problem is that money is mismanaged and misspent we need a functioning fit for purpose welfare system throwing more money at it won’t resolve the issue.
I’m quite happy with the contributions to the EU and overseas aid, in the grand scheme of things it’s an insignificant amount.
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Of course you are, but I repeat, the money is not insignificant.
You know what desperate lives some people are living in the UK. Surely, that money would be better spent on them. Or the NHS. Or schools. Anywhere but the EU, which does very little for us.
If you are looking to Labour to better manage the welfare system, good luck with that. Marxists Corbyn and McDonnell will succeed only in bringing this country to its knees.
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02-05-2019, 11:03
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Re: Brexit
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I do wonder what will happen to the Brexit party funds if we leave before the EU elections?
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You mean the Withdrawal Agreement that isn’t actually Brexit?
And you have the Audacity to call us Brexiteers “blind”.
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BREAKING: The Brexit Party leads well ahead of Labour in latest European Parliament Elections voting intentions.
BREX: 30%
Labour: 21%
Con: 13%
LDem: 10%
Green: 9%
ChUK: 9%
UKIP: 4%
Via @Yougov 29-30 Apr 19.
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02-05-2019, 11:07
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Re: Brexit(New).
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Of course you are, but I repeat, the money is not insignificant.
You know what desperate lives some people are living in the UK. Surely, that money would be better spent on them. Or the NHS. Or schools. Anywhere but the EU, which does very little for us.
If you are looking to Labour to better manage the welfare system, good luck with that. Marxists Corbyn and McDonnell will succeed only in bringing this country to its knees.
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I do know what desperate lives some people live as i have first hand experience of it from my youth.
Here in lies the rub however, there's no evidence to suggest whatsoever that if and when we leave the EU and if we were to reduce our foreign aid by 50% that the resultant savings would be passed on to those areas most in need.
The North East of the UK has as a whole has been ignored and left to rot by successive governments with little to no investment from the UK government, The fact that there's been more investment £ from the EU into the North East than there has been from the UK government should tell it's own story.
I firmly believe that had the equivalent money been available from the UK government it would have been used for different purposes and in different geographic areas.
The EU has done a significant amount for the UK, some of which we take for granted and are forgotten about.
I agree with you on your final point, the country requires a fundamental change in the way our political system works.
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Originally Posted by Mick
I get why you feel this way. But we have to preserve democracy. Politicians are accountable via the ballot box. Every vote should count.
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Fully agree, regardless of political allegiance, Brexit stance.
You have the oppurtunity to make your voice heard, This is a right that millions of people around the world would love to have.
Use it.
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02-05-2019, 11:30
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
You mean the Withdrawal Agreement that isn’t actually Brexit?
And you have the Audacity to call us Brexiteers “blind”.
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BREAKING: The Brexit Party leads well ahead of Labour in latest European Parliament Elections voting intentions.
BREX: 30%
Labour: 21%
Con: 13%
LDem: 10%
Green: 9%
ChUK: 9%
UKIP: 4%
Via @Yougov 29-30 Apr 19.
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Irrelevant. If we leave the EU this means we have no MEPs.
Even leaving with a customs union AKA the Turkish version is a hard Brexit or BRINO still means no MEPs.
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