27-05-2019, 14:40
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
Probably because the Tories will do anything to avoid an election....
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Exactly as they would be lucky if they got more then 100 seats if there was a election..
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27-05-2019, 14:40
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#2837
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Please stop bringing this man in to this discussion - no idea why you and Damien keep bringing it up - he lost (quite rightfully), so no idea why he is still being mentioned.
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27-05-2019, 14:41
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
He's right. But obviously, neither will happen.
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He usually knows which way the wind is blowing as he is a experienced political pundit.
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27-05-2019, 14:48
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
He usually knows which way the wind is blowing as he is a experienced political pundit.
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As I said, he is right. We agree on that.
However, both scenarios are so unlikely as can be safely discounted.
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Originally Posted by Mick
Please stop bringing this man in to this discussion - no idea why you and Damien keep bringing it up - he lost (quite rightfully), so no idea why he is still being mentioned.
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That's right. It seems to be the typical refrain of the losers: "I want another vote!"
That's what one of my Grandsons would have said when he was 3. He's not 10 yet, but he's grown out of that whingy "It isn't fair" stage. It's about time our politicians grew up too.
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27-05-2019, 14:49
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Re: Brexit
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/stat...37706647031808
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Alex Wickham @alexwickham 4h
Bizarre that people saying the combined Remain vote share was higher than the combined Leave vote are not including the Tory result on the Leave side. If you do, as you obviously should, then Leave is clearly ahead
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Precisely.
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27-05-2019, 14:52
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
Please stop bringing this man in to this discussion - no idea why you and Damien keep bringing it up - he lost (quite rightfully), so no idea why he is still being mentioned.
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Because he stood as a MEP candidate in the EU elections, suopporting Brexit.
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27-05-2019, 14:56
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
That's right. It seems to be the typical refrain of the losers: "I want another vote!"
That's what one of my Grandsons would have said when he was 3. He's not 10 yet, but he's grown out of that whingy "It isn't fair" stage. It's about time ourpoliticians grewup too.
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Just to make it clear to you OB l have never once said there should be another vote
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27-05-2019, 14:56
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Because he stood as a MEP candidate in the EU elections, suopporting Brexit.
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Well I don't understand the need to keep raising his loss - he lost, no big deal.
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27-05-2019, 15:06
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
Well I don't understand the need to keep raising his loss - he lost, no big deal.
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1) It's funny 2) His loss says good things about the UK. 3) One thing that unites a lot of us 4) Very funny
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27-05-2019, 15:11
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Re: Brexit
Total vote tallies are in:-
Labour campaigned on a Leave with a deal ticket so it's gone in Leave column, Tory party also ran with "Get Brexit done", so it too is there.
Even if we remove Labour's tally from the leave total, it still flattens Remain with 7,304,926 total votes.
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27-05-2019, 15:18
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
Just to make it clear to you OB l have never once said there should be another vote
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My remark was aimed at Tommy Robinson, Den.
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Originally Posted by Mick
Total vote tallies are in:-
Labour campaigned on a Leave with a deal ticket so it's gone in Leave column, Tory party also ran with "Get Brexit done", so it too is there.
Even if we remove Labour's tally from the leave total, it still flattens Remain with 7,304,926 total votes.
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That's quite a decisive win for leave, no doubt about that.
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27-05-2019, 15:18
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
My remark was aimed at Tommy Robinson, Den.
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Okay OB.
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27-05-2019, 16:06
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
Total vote tallies are in:-
Labour campaigned on a Leave with a deal ticket so it's gone in Leave column, Tory party also ran with "Get Brexit done", so it too is there.
Even if we remove Labour's tally from the leave total, it still flattens Remain with 7,304,926 total votes.
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No majority there for a hard Brexit though. Just 26% of the country wants that. A close deal with the EU will satisfy no one but is probably the best solution. An ideological hard Brexit won't heal the nation's divisions and it could set the Conservative Party back decades.
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27-05-2019, 16:37
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Re: Brexit
Some strange things I've learned from reading the last few pages of . . . dross
*Brexit won more seats than anyone else but lost
*17.4 million people didn't vote for Brexit last night, therefore Remain won
*The EU couldn't care two hoots about the 28 (29) seats won by Brexit, as they'll make no difference to anything
*There will be a second referendum because nutcases on Twitter want one
*People in NE Lincolnshire have a brilliant sense of humour (can't give you more rep yet)
. . . at least there was no mention of Blair
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27-05-2019, 16:39
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Re: Brexit
If you compare the UKIP vote of the previous EU election and the referendum result afterwards, against the recent combined Brexit and UKIP vote, then the inference could be that the Leave vote in a referendum is higher than before.
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