Coronavirus (OLD)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Usual nonsense. As if he would've had any say in hiring developers for PHE. They were possibly hired before he came onto the "scene".


Too much hiring on the basis of bits of paper, rather than core underlying ability.

Do we actually know where the issue arose before we start analysing recruitment in the civil service? Various private companies have been involved in the Track and Trace project too.

[Hom3r]

What really boils my pee are the idiots who cannot wear a mask properly.

Because we all know the Coronavirus will ignore an uncovered nose.

I won't say what I feel about non maskers, other than no valid excuse whatsoever, as I will be banned for life.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Do we actually know where the issue arose before we start analysing recruitment in the civil service? Various private companies have been involved in the Track and Trace project too.

Didn't you see, read, and comprehend, my link and quote?
The issue has been identified with PHE turning the perfectly ok text files into a spreadsheet format and using an old Excel file format(2003 or older) to do it.
The dilemma might have been using a format that most people could deal with. In that sense using an older format, might've seemed appropriate.
Link

A worksheet in Microsoft Excel can contain maximum 1,048,576 rows and 16,384 columns. This limit is applicable on Office 365 and newer versions of Microsoft Office such as Excel 2019, 2016, 2013, 2010 and 2007. Older versions such as Excel 2003, Excel XP (2002), Excel 2000, Excel 97 contained a limit of maximum 65,536 rows and 256 columns. Classic Excel 95 and Excel 5 versions came with a limit of maximum 16,384 rows and 256 columns.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Maggy

If only we could get a track and trace system going.

Well I’m not downloading the app either.

[jfman]

I do enjoy reading resistance to the only way out. It's only prolonging the pain.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

I do enjoy reading resistance to the only way out. It's only prolonging the pain.

Well, if you download that app, and then receive a text telling you to self isolate, no other evidence required, just a text.

You are then compelled by law to do as you are told, and you are committing an offence by not obeying that text.

Not the society I expect, or want, to live in.

A society where we are controlled by the government via text, and potentially arrested and charged if we don’t. If that doesn’t scream dystopian at you, I don’t know what would.

[jfman]

The alternative is having thousands of people who may have the virus going around. And that means lockdown. That's not a win in my book.

[joglynne]

Trump latest

"I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good!" he wrote on Twitter. "Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!"

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates...ws-2020-10-05/

It would help if he ensured that others could get the 5star medical attention that he has recieved.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well, if you download that app, and then receive a text telling you to self isolate, no other evidence required, just a text.

You are then compelled by law to do as you are told, and you are committing an offence by not obeying that text.

Not the society I expect, or want, to live in.

A society where we are controlled by the government via text, and potentially arrested and charged if we don’t. If that doesn’t scream dystopian at you, I don’t know what would.

You could move to North Korea, see how far that gets you. At least you have a choice here.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

The alternative is having thousands of people who may have the virus going around. And that means lockdown. That's not a win in my book.

Definitive word being “may”

If the system was you are sent a text and you are advised to stay at home if you receive it, especially if you think you have symptoms. I would download it.

But because it is now ensconced In law and would be committing and offence by not obeying the text why on earth would I download it.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Definitive word being “may”

If the system was you are sent a text and you are advised to stay at home if you receive it, especially if you think you have symptoms. I would download it.

But because it is now ensconced In law and would be committing and offence by not obeying the text why on earth would I download it.

Yes - 'may' - it's a risk based assessment.

I'd prefer that to being told there are additional restrictions in my area and/or a lockdown - often for greater than 14 days - that bear no reflection on my personal risk based on my own behaviour or sheer bad luck.

I presently do have a similar app on my phone - from another country - due to spending time there recently and deciding it's better to have their app for a further 14 days so I can get notifications based on who I encountered there.

I could meet multiple households in bars, gather in large groups, stay in the pub after 10. It was all quite refreshing. Principally because that country isn't full of idiots who think they know better. So far it has told me I've had one 'low risk' encounter, based on either being for too short a period or at too large a distance. Sounds good to me.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

What really boils my pee are the idiots who cannot wear a mask properly.

Because we all know the Coronavirus will ignore an uncovered nose.

I won't say what I feel about non maskers, other than no valid excuse whatsoever, as I will be banned for life.

I wear one, but only if I'm inside a shop/petrol station etc etc

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well I’m not downloading the app either.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well, if you download that app, and then receive a text telling you to self isolate, no other evidence required, just a text.

You are then compelled by law to do as you are told, and you are committing an offence by not obeying that text.

Not the society I expect, or want, to live in.

A society where we are controlled by the government via text, and potentially arrested and charged if we don’t. If that doesn’t scream dystopian at you, I don’t know what would.

Well if you don't use the app or provide contact details you will be refused entry.

Plus there is no link to you directly using the app. so if the app tells you to isolate it is up to your conscious if you do what it says.

If you chose to ay stuff you and carry on there is nothing that can be done.

I used it in McDonalds on saturday and the funeral home today.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well, if you download that app, and then receive a text telling you to self isolate, no other evidence required, just a text.

You are then compelled by law to do as you are told, and you are committing an offence by not obeying that text.

Not the society I expect, or want, to live in.

A society where we are controlled by the government via text, and potentially arrested and charged if we don’t. If that doesn’t scream dystopian at you, I don’t know what would.

Ah - but how do they know who has received a text and thus can be collared?