Coronavirus (OLD)

Originally Posted by Pierre

Restrictions largely ignored. Obviously businesses have shut at 10pm

But apart from that, the rule of 6 and pretty much every other rule has been ignored, and I can guarantee the the new rule of no houses mixing will new equally ignored.

Not around here...

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Restrictions largely ignored. Obviously businesses have shut at 10pm

But apart from that, the rule of 6 and pretty much every other rule has been ignored, and I can guarantee the the new rule of no houses mixing will new equally ignored.

Reversal of the return to work is another major factor.

While obviously some are ignoring the rules (we are a society that generally lacks common sense and trust of experts) I doubt they are even a significant minority, let alone a majority. Every single avoided human interaction reduces the chances of spread of the virus.

I’d (genuinely) like to see statistical analysis of adherence to the rules.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not around here...

I can’t speak for everyone, as you can’t, but certainly just down the road from Leeds in Calderdale These have been my personal observations and of that during Eid and throughout.

I happy the people of the main city have been more compliant.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not around here...

Loads of people I know who were set to work a day or two in central London have now had that option removes and so are complying with the rules.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Loads of people I know who were set to work a day or two in central London have now had that option removes and so are complying with the rules.

It’s not work that is the issue, evidence seems to show infections are more prevalent at home than outside or at work.

People at home just don’t give a toss what Boris is saying, or care for his totalitarian oppression.

Tackling this pandemic will not be successful by stepping on the neck of the U.K. population with the jackboot of government oppression, complete with making it illegal to visit aunt Judy.

The U.K. is policed by consent. Government should not put the police in a position that would undermine that.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

It’s not work that is the issue, evidence seems to show infections are more prevalent at home than outside or at work.

People at home just don’t give a toss what Boris is saying, or care for his totalitarian oppression.

Tackling this pandemic will not be successful by stepping on the neck of the U.K. population with the jackboot of government oppression, complete with making it illegal to visit aunt Judy.

The U.K. is policed by consent. Government should not put the police in a position that would undermine that.

I'm not sure how home could be less safe than commuting for an hour into central London and working there. You will encounter far more people and the proximity cannot be easily avoided.

You may be pleased to hear that the Liberal Democrats are supporting the Brady amendment.

"People want to know Parliament is active and can control the executive. Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings seem to be ruling the country by diktat and that's not acceptable.
"We will support the Brady amendment and the need for more scrutiny. But this amendment doesn't go far enough, particularly on taking away the care rights of disabled people, which breaches international law.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-laws-12084613

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm not sure how home could be less safe than commuting for an hour into central London and working there. You will encounter far more people and the proximity cannot be easily avoided.

Sorry by at home I meant family gatherings at home.

Obviously not The nuclear family by themselves.

[Julian]

[1andrew1]

You would think these public figures would know better!
- Boris Johnson's father has said he is "extremely sorry" after being photographed shopping without wearing a face covering
- Jeremy Corbyn has reportedly apologised for breaking the rule of six by attending a dinner party with his wife and seven other guests.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-mask-12086468

[Sephiroth]

Corbyn isn't sorry at all. He knew what he was flouting and should be made to walk the plank.

Johnson should get a formal warning.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Corbyn isn't sorry at all. He knew what he was flouting and should be made to walk the plank.

Johnson should get a formal warning.

Corbyn's taking the mickey and Johnson Snr has form (inessential trip to Greece breaking lockdown rules, and buying a newspaper after his grandchild was born in April again in breach of lockdown rules).

[heero_yuy]

Quote from Northern Echo:

THE Mayor of Middlesbrough has hit out at new coronavirus lockdown restrictions for the town.

On his Facebook account the Mayor Andy Preston posted a video stating that the government announcement regarding Middlesbrough and Hartlepool going into a local lockdown 'doesn't make any sense'.

In the Facebook post Mr Preston, said: "Right now I do not accept the government’s intended restrictions because they are based on ignorance."

In the video he said: "I don't accept the measures, we need to talk to the government. They need to understand our local knowledge, expertise and ability to get things done and preserve jobs and well-being.

Article has link to video.

Can he defy El Gov. and not enforce a lockdown? Can he instruct the local police and officials not to implement the rules?

Interesting times ahead.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You would think these public figures would know better!
- Boris Johnson's father has said he is "extremely sorry" after being photographed shopping without wearing a face covering
- Jeremy Corbyn has reportedly apologised for breaking the rule of six by attending a dinner party with his wife and seven other guests.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-mask-12086468

They do know better because they think they're better than the rest of us, if the government want the public to follow the rules they need to come down as hard as legally allowed, as publically as possible or they might as well say just do what you want

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

They do know better because they think they're better than the rest of us, if the government want the public to follow the rules they need to come down as hard as legally allowed, as publically as possible or they might as well say just do what you want

Trouble is another well-known figure flouted the law earlier on and got away with it.
As someone commented in the FT today about Cummings but it applies to others in power, these people know they broke the law, they know that you know that they broke the law and they know that you can't do anything about it!

[papa smurf]

Coronavirus: Tougher rules for Liverpool, Warrington, Hartlepool and Middlesbrough - but one mayor vows to defy them

Tougher coronavirus restrictions are being imposed on four new areas - but one mayor says they are "damaging" and he will not accept them.



The rebellion is underway don't stand too close to the fan.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-them-12086656