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Old 20-04-2021, 18:59   #46
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

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If the founding teams were in their own private league, they won't be out of work.

The governing bodies can surely add a definition of "club" to their rules so that a player's club must be one affiliated to that governing body which, in turn, can be governed by rules as to which leagues are allowed to offer "clubs".

Something like that. But not the government; it's a precedent too far.

I suspect Boris is hoping that the threat of legislation will be enough. The clubs need to understand they’re in a no-win scenario. If the calculation was purely based on existing laws, where there is an acknowledged grey area between sporting and competition legislation, they may well decide it’s worth the fight. If they come to understand that if they win in the courts, they will then lose in parliament, where they have no hope of influence, then that is almost certainly going to be enough to persuade them not to waste their money on all those expensive corporate lawyers.
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Old 20-04-2021, 19:02   #47
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

I think the Government is hoping the backlash and the threat of legislative action is enough to defeat the plans.

It would probably start getting difficult if the Government tried to craft coherent laws that allow them to block which competitions a private sporting organisation can join? It would get very messy.
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Old 20-04-2021, 19:22   #48
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

There are already a load of restrictions surrounding clubs and players. Players have to be registered at a club, which probably has to be registered with a Football Association, which in turns leads to membership of UEFA and FIFA.
The UK has 4 separate Football Associations, which is why England, Scotland, Wales and NI are treated separately.


Theoretically nothing can stop them forming their own league, but there is nothing to say the various levels of Football Associations have to let them be part of their competitions etc. After all, this new league is closed in nature.
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

As the Bosman ruling showed some of the football rules are inherently incompatible with the EU.

Essentially the authorities act as semi-closed cartels, collective bargaining for media rights and some sponsorship. A blind eye has been to some extent turned, and football clubs have never really challenged it due to the threat of being kicked out.
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

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As the Bosman ruling showed some of the football rules are inherently incompatible with the EU.

Essentially the authorities act as semi-closed cartels, collective bargaining for media rights and some sponsorship. A blind eye has been to some extent turned, and football clubs have never really challenged it due to the threat of being kicked out.
The clubs can't exist in isolation, which means things like media rights would be complicated.
Most, if not all sports operate in a similar manner.
The Bosman ruling was about the specific situation where a player's contract had come to an end.
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In an interview with The Guardian, Bosman himself said: "Now the 25 or so richest clubs transfer players for astronomical sums and smaller clubs cannot afford to buy at those prices.
"So the 25 pull further and further away from the rest, deepening the gap between big and small. That was not the aim of the Bosman ruling."
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

Being reported that Chelsea are currently drawing up the paperwork to withdraw from the ESL.

I wonder who the ESL have as a reserve?
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The clubs can't exist in isolation, which means things like media rights would be complicated.
Most, if not all sports operate in a similar manner.
The Bosman ruling was about the specific situation where a player's contract had come to an end.
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I’m not disputing that most, or all, sports operate this way or that on some level it could be desirable (that’s a whole other debate).

But when challenged in court on a point of law they need to be able to point to where legislation or legal precedents allow them to operate in this manner. I don’t see where this exists.

I’m totally against the idea and hope the courts do rule against clubs seeking to break away.
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

I don't see why the courts should get involved with clubs breaking away from their associations. If clubs want to join another association instead, it's up to them.
If the associations want to allow a club to belong to more than one association, that's up to the associations.

There's no role for government here.
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

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Being reported that Chelsea are currently drawing up the paperwork to withdraw from the ESL.

I wonder who the ESL have as a reserve?
Chelsea were always the weakest link, not in debt like the other clubs.
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

City now... Barcelona rumoured.
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

I reckon Mr Putin had a word Roman A, let’s put some Yankee noses out of joint.
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

Looks like the whole thing is off and that Ed Woodward has resigned at United
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Looks like the whole thing is off and that Ed Woodward has resigned at United
Every cloud has a silver lining for Manu fans then
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Re: European football clubs agree to create a Super League

Well lads it was nice to be in a thread where we all shared the same position.
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Well lads it was nice to be in a thread where we all shared the same position.
so true . . . see you next year for ESL 2
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