[Merged] BB Speed Upgrades

[BBKing]

Not quite sure I see the incentive for them to actually deliver anymore

It would royally wee me off if they didn't, I've put a lot of hard work into it!

They don't like me when I'm angry.

Patience, people of cableforum, it's on the way. Fun popping into ntlhell for a bit - few old faces in there.

[poolking]

BBKing,

You don't turn green when angry?

[kronas]

Originally Posted by poolking

BBKing,

You don't turn green when angry?

/me hides before things get big and nasty

[BBKing]

You don't turn green when angry?

I turn green when changing nappies, that's for sure.

So whats this then 1.5mb come on NTL pull ur thumb out and make a 2mb or 3mb for £45-£50

I know i would be on a 3mb faster then it could download a 500kb Jpeg

[Ignition]

sounds good to me, right im booking a 4.7gb download of a dvd from a high speed movie pay per download server see how long before NTL have a benny at me LOL

Errrm I daily download massive files from friends Ftp's online of games to test out and large dvd-camcorder files of 2gb

No letter....ahh well

So whats this then 1.5mb come on NTL pull ur thumb out and make a 2mb or 3mb for £45-£50

I know i would be on a 3mb faster then it could download a 500kb Jpeg

One major reason why this hasn't happened yet is the economics around it. If people who sign up for 3Mbit are signing up to download 500+GB/month there's no money to be made there, quite the opposite to be honest (on 1Mbit you can download 300GB).

Consider somewhere like Frank's new home Canada, 100GB a month is considered massively heavy use there (that 100GB is only 3.5GB/day) and this is a place where the standard speed connections are 3 - 5Mbit and the highest speeds all the way up to 10Mbit.

Higher speeds do absolutely not equal a license to download loads more. In a way you're shooting yourself squarely in the arse here, you pay for maybe a 1/20th share, 15GB/month, can't complain when your provider baulks at letting you download 30 times that amount for twice the price.

I have 2Mbit ADSL, my standard usage along with my partner on 2 PCs is less than 20GB a month.

[Stop It]

The thing is, The first quote you said looks like a legal site (Could be wrong) But anyway, legal Film downloads (and possibly rental downloads) are becoming viable, and when they become widely available, I fear that ntl users would be unable to use them, perhaps there should be a unlimited bandwidth option, you pay a small fee, and for say, 24 hours, you can download all you like, It would be perfect for LEGAL downloading of films, and games.

[seaneeboy]

How big is an avarage legal film?

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Stop It

The thing is, The first quote you said looks like a legal site (Could be wrong) But anyway, legal Film downloads (and possibly rental downloads) are becoming viable, and when they become widely available, I fear that ntl users would be unable to use them, perhaps there should be a unlimited bandwidth option, you pay a small fee, and for say, 24 hours, you can download all you like, It would be perfect for LEGAL downloading of films, and games.

Don't know about legal downloads for good but rental for sure is becoming widely available, a few examples are in an article here:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...-17-baig_x.htm

Downloading of games is legal too such as the case of Steam etc.

No doubt bandwidth needs will burst through the ceiling at which point it'll be up to the ISPs to provide, however still gotta say that at the moment the price of connections is probably skewed up somewhat to cater for heavier users, and with these technologies in their infancy legal demand for large amounts of data each month is still pretty small.

Even with these services you're gonna struggle to download much more than 100GB/month, going by the massive users I know of who download far more than they ever actually use.

[DieDieMyDarling]

There are many legal films that fit on a CD. Flash movies are getting bigger and bigger, as are flash games.
Also, pornsites with movie clips, and indeed full movies. (not that i'd use them myself, ahem).

Then there are music video's, taken off MTV, etc.

Game demo's are quite big too. Some are over 300mb. And will no doubt get bigger.

There are also video's provided by musicians/bands. Especially from the Punk scenes, where commercialism is selling out. So they offer all their stuff for free on their websites.

It all mounts up, and with caps strictly enforced, we lose out.
AOL are the answer. If ntl can't provide it, go to AOL.

[Vegeta]

I'm in the Manchester area and my STB just restarted on its own so I looked at my download speeds and they are above 80

The max I can seem to get is 86kb/695kbit

Is this normal?

[BBKing]

cough - nice to know our efforts are appreciated

Well, allowing for overheads, 700k out of 750 isn't bad for starters. Lets see what the others get.

I get <500k on my '512k' ADSL, for what it's worth.

[swoop101]

It has happened

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:40:03 UTC
1st 128K took 1485 ms = 88264 Bytes/sec = approx 734 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1531 ms = 85612 Bytes/sec = approx 712 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1484 ms = 88323 Bytes/sec = approx 735 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1860 ms = 70469 Bytes/sec = approx 586 kbits/sec


on my 600

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:42:48 UTC
1st 128K took 1594 ms = 82228 Bytes/sec = approx 684 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1531 ms = 85612 Bytes/sec = approx 712 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec


Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:43:20 UTC
1st 128K took 1516 ms = 86459 Bytes/sec = approx 719 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 2078 ms = 63076 Bytes/sec = approx 525 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1484 ms = 88323 Bytes/sec = approx 735 kbits/sec

just checked a few more times.

[swoop101]

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:43:20 UTC
1st 128K took 1516 ms = 86459 Bytes/sec = approx 719 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 2078 ms = 63076 Bytes/sec = approx 525 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1484 ms = 88323 Bytes/sec = approx 735 kbits/sec


yep mine too.

[Chrysalis]

hmm what happened to the turbo function thing ntl was trialling where you had credits for 3mbit.