Government & Post Election Discussion
04-10-2017, 17:01
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Being selfish I just wonder if my transplant will be any quicker.
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i think a new law needs passing first
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04-10-2017, 18:02
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Being selfish I just wonder if my transplant will be any quicker.
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It's not being selfish. It's a crime that so many perfectly usable organs are lost because there's no proper donating procedure in the UK. I really don't think the vast majority of people will mind being opted in and for those who do object they can register that fact. I can't imagine that if next of kin objected that their wishes would be ignored.
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04-10-2017, 18:08
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Boris has a lot to answer for. 
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04-10-2017, 18:11
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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It's not being selfish. It's a crime that so many perfectly usable organs are lost because there's no proper donating procedure in the UK. I really don't think the vast majority of people will mind being opted in and for those who do object they can register that fact. I can't imagine that if next of kin objected that their wishes would be ignored.
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Spot on 
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04-10-2017, 18:33
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that depends on your religious leanings ,my objection is taking without consent just reduces us to meat i don't believe the dead should be used this way unless they have given consent while alive .
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That's exactly what our bodies are once we've died.
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Boris has a lot to answer for. |
Talking of people with a lot to answer for just listening to Amber Rudd being dissected by Eddie Mair.
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04-10-2017, 19:50
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There are plenty of Fat Cat Tories all situated in one place we could dissect first before cooking...
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04-10-2017, 19:53
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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I'm sure it'll be made clear where the opt-out option is for those that don't want to donate their organs when they've no further use for them.
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It's not a donation if they just take them, that guy that visits his doners grave every year to thank him for his gift wouldn't need to bother if his transplant happened the day after this proposal comes in.
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04-10-2017, 21:47
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It's not a donation if they just take them, that guy that visits his doners grave every year to thank him for his gift wouldn't need to bother if his transplant happened the day after this proposal comes in.
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I'm not sure that's the experience of the many countries that run opt-out donor registers.
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05-10-2017, 01:21
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I'm not sure that's the experience of the many countries that run opt-out donor registers.
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I just think it's a great thing to do but the gesture is greatly diminished if they just take organs anyway. Imo they should have put a lot more effort into getting people to volunteer before making it compulsory, a tv advert campaign every few years wasn't enough
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05-10-2017, 10:09
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It's not going to be compulsory. I imagine part of the point is ensuring it's not an exceptional gesture but considered normal. The donor provides the organs after death, they've no further use for them. Cold as it may seem considering a body to be meat or spare parts once brain death is inevitable or has happened that is all the body is, a cadaver of organs and other flesh. Many religions adhere to this as well. Once the mind / soul is gone what's left is a shell. Most bodies are going in the oven at gas mark a lot or are going into a box and into the ground anyway.
Anyway I'll shush on that note, this is turning into something of a philosophy thing and my thoughts on these matters remain the same.
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05-10-2017, 13:16
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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It's not going to be compulsory. I imagine part of the point is ensuring it's not an exceptional gesture but considered normal. The donor provides the organs after death, they've no further use for them. Cold as it may seem considering a body to be meat or spare parts once brain death is inevitable or has happened that is all the body is, a cadaver of organs and other flesh. Many religions adhere to this as well. Once the mind / soul is gone what's left is a shell. Most bodies are going in the oven at gas mark a lot or are going into a box and into the ground anyway.
Anyway I'll shush on that note, this is turning into something of a philosophy thing and my thoughts on these matters remain the same.
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I have no problem with this at all hence my donating my body to Cardiff University Hospital.
My left over shell will be a learning tool for trainee doctors to help them develop the skills to help people in the future.
I promise you, I won't feel a thing!
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05-10-2017, 14:38
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He’s trying to get fired to try and unseat May imo.
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The plotters are becoming even more open and ambitious now according to this.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3651546.html
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05-10-2017, 14:56
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Everyone feeling the strength and stability?
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05-10-2017, 15:39
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05-10-2017, 15:45
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If you press the home page there is a headline exclusive there.
https://www.standard.co.uk/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
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