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Old 20-11-2020, 13:54   #16
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

I think the appropriate word in the topic title is advice

There is no written rule that says you have to act on it if you don't fully agree with it.

Resigning because your advice wasn't implemented seems like a 'look at me I'm too important to be ignored' statement from a sore loser
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Old 20-11-2020, 13:55   #17
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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She's been found guilty of bullying behaviour by an inquiry. What bit don't you understand ?

If someone doesn't meet their objectives then they can lose their job (even civil servants).
What was this bullying behaviour meant to have been, other then raising her voice?
Was it anything like this?
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1. Gordon Brown really does have a bad temper
Rumours had been swirling around Westminster for months: that the Prime Minister had shoved an aide aside; that he had sworn at officials; was fond of throwing mobile phones across rooms. But extracts from Andrew Rawnsley's The End of the Party put flesh on the bones. The back seat of his prime ministerial Daimler is covered in pen marks inflicted in anger. He grabbed Gavin Kelly, an aide, by the lapels and shouted: "They are out to get me!" He turfed a Downing Street secretary out of her chair because she was typing too slowly.
Now that all sounds like what should've been a police matter.



So how often do civil servants get sacked for ineptitude?

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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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I think the appropriate word in the topic title is advice

There is no written rule that says you have to act on it if you don't fully agree with it.

Resigning because your advice wasn't implemented seems like a 'look at me I'm too important to be ignored' statement from a sore loser
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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So how often do civil servants get sacked for ineptitude?

More importantly, how many times are they moved sideways to screw up somewhere else?
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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"To that extent her behaviour has been in breach of the ministerial code, even if unintentionally."


However, he added that the home secretary had "legitimately - not always felt supported by the department".

So the Civil servants were bullying her.
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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So the Civil servants were bullying her.
It sounds like she lost the dressing room.
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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Responding to the news, Labour leader starmer said: "Yet again, the prime minister has been found wanting when his leadership has been tested.

"If I were prime minister, the home secretary would have been removed from her job."
Course you would, just like you sacked your deputy for racism.

Hypocritical asshole.
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Course you would, just like you sacked your deputy for racism.

Hypocritical asshole.
Well said
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

So she did it but it wasn't intentional, wonder if that defence will hold up next time I'm stopped for speeding. Sounds like another prime ministerial cover up to avoid sacking someone, starting to wonder what they have to do to get the boot, other than call Carrie names of course
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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Resorting to bullying & intimidation is not the type of the leadership or behaviour anyone should sanction or endorse. In an era where political conviction is ridiculed for the comfort of conformity & compliance, its a shame such little respect is shown to the views of others. twitter.com/tnewtondunn/st…

hmmmm take it that dont apply to you Priti you mega hypocrite
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Re: PM's adviser on ministerial code resigns over his advice on Priti Patel being ign

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Resorting to bullying & intimidation is not the type of the leadership or behaviour anyone should sanction or endorse. In an era where political conviction is ridiculed for the comfort of conformity & compliance, its a shame such little respect is shown to the views of others. twitter.com/tnewtondunn/st…

hmmmm take it that dont apply to you Priti you mega hypocrite
Except when provoked by obstinate civil servants.
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Except when provoked by obstinate civil servants.
So you don't believe in the ministerial code of conduct then?.
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So you don't believe in the ministerial code of conduct then?.
You mean like Gordon Brown did?
All it amounts to is civil servants getting sulky over being criticised for ineptitude, and nothing more than that. No phones thrown, no grabbing of people, and no turfing people out of a chair.
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You mean like Gordon Brown did?
All it amounts to is civil servants getting sulky over being criticised for ineptitude, and nothing more than that. No phones thrown, no grabbing of people, and no turfing people out of a chair.
Here we go the great defender of the faith who defends the indefensible every time..
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Here we go the great defender of the faith who defends the indefensible every time..
What's wrong with criticising people who have done something incorrectly?
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