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Old 20-10-2020, 18:56   #1321
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Old 21-10-2020, 13:09   #1322
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In Anglia West region, ITV HD(113) local news was for Meridan area(South East), so I don't know how Anglia East and Anglia West are going to come into it.

An article for the Central ITV region, doesn't mention cable or Freeview, only Sky and Freesat. Additionally the article is only from last Wednesday. The Anglia region version is only from last Friday.

IIRC there has been a issue before about switching between SD and HD, and correct flagging of the channels and EPG.

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Channel 113 ITV HD is back.
Virgin sources their ITVHD feeds directly from Arqiva, not from satellite. All these new regions are now being uplinked from Crawley Court for Sky/Freesat, so it’s just a question of whether these are being piped on to the Langley MHE for VM to distribute. There are currently no changes to Freeview services.
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Old 21-10-2020, 15:17   #1323
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Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)

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Virgin sources their ITVHD feeds directly from Arqiva, not from satellite. All these new regions are now being uplinked from Crawley Court for Sky/Freesat, so it’s just a question of whether these are being piped on to the Langley MHE for VM to distribute. There are currently no changes to Freeview services.
As of yesterday (20 October), channel 113 on VM here in Nottingham was showing ITV Central East News (albeit from Birmingham ) in glorious High Definition (or at least, upscaled SD). Similarly, ITV Yorkshire was showing Calendar for Humberside (from a studio in Leeds ) in HD on channel 870.

I've read in other forums that to change the Freeview transmitters to show the correct subregions on Freeview channel 103 is difficult as the BBC owns the HD multiplex (PSB3) and doesn't want to share with ITV the cost of rearranging the multiplexing set-up to allow full regionalisation.
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Old 21-10-2020, 15:31   #1324
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As of yesterday (20 October), channel 113 on VM here in Nottingham was showing ITV Central East News (albeit from Birmingham ) in glorious High Definition (or at least, upscaled SD). Similarly, ITV Yorkshire was showing Calendar for Humberside (from a studio in Leeds ) in HD on channel 870.

I've read in other forums that to change the Freeview transmitters to show the correct subregions on Freeview channel 103 is difficult as the BBC owns the HD multiplex (PSB3) and doesn't want to share with ITV the cost of rearranging the multiplexing set-up to allow full regionalisation.
The studios in Nottingham closed yonks ago. Everything has been coming from Birmingham for some time. The East Midlands news is recorded earlier, then broadcast simultaneously with the live version for the West Midlands. You may have even seen the same presenters on both versions. The same happens with Anglia East & West regions, that both come from Norwich. The only difference is Arqiva have upgraded the links from the studios to carry 2 HD outputs simultaneously now, so no more “one sub region in SD & the other in HD”. If you are getting alternate regions (870) in HD then VMs MHE is being fed with all the upgraded feeds.

I think it will need a move from ITV to change PSB2 to DVB-T2 in order to get parity on Freeview. If it does happen that ITV 2, 3 or 4 closes it may become even more likely.

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Old 21-10-2020, 16:19   #1325
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Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)

There are three versions of Meridian News -with the same presenters doing all three of the 6pm editions with different news.

One for South East (called East) one for the South (called South) and one for the North (called Thames Valley).

Our HD version was the East version until this week - London would have been nearer.
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Old 21-10-2020, 18:07   #1326
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Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)

Channel 113 here in Teesside is showing ITV Tyne Tees HD, with the SD version on 103. I'm not sure if this is new as previously the HD version was Granada. Also, the +1 channel used to show Calendar from Yorkshire, now 114 is Granada+1.
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Old 21-10-2020, 20:13   #1327
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Channel 113 here in Teesside is showing ITV Tyne Tees HD, with the SD version on 103. I'm not sure if this is new as previously the HD version was Granada. Also, the +1 channel used to show Calendar from Yorkshire, now 114 is Granada+1.
ITV have increased the number of HD regions and decreased the number of +1 variations.

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JJ20X on Forum Box has just posted a table of all the ITV HD changes on VM compiled from network scan data, if anyone want to see a more detailed breakdown.
https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...168#post102168
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Old 21-10-2020, 21:29   #1328
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Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)

Just noticed this on DigitalBitRate

Looks like the guys (and gals) at head end are having a laugh at us

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Read backwards noseY parkeR

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en

Also this which would appear to be a new slate

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en
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Old 21-10-2020, 22:53   #1329
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Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)

VMs days of being the fastest widespread provider are numbered if the proposals i've seen happen.
Cityfibre and Hyperoptic are planning some serious investment to expand to cover 95% of the UK in the next 2 years.
Also the likes of SKY, BT, Vodafone (who are Cityfibre anyway) are going to seriously step up their rollout of Fibre to the premises.
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Old 21-10-2020, 23:47   #1330
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Just noticed this on DigitalBitRate

Looks like the guys (and gals) at head end are having a laugh at us

Service Name: Rekrap Yeson

Read backwards noseY parkeR

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en

Also this which would appear to be a new slate

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en
The Nosey Parker backwards thing is a few months old. JJ20X mentioned it on Forum Box a while ago.
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Old 21-10-2020, 23:59   #1331
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VMs days of being the fastest widespread provider are numbered if the proposals i've seen happen.
Cityfibre and Hyperoptic are planning some serious investment to expand to cover 95% of the UK in the next 2 years.
Also the likes of SKY, BT, Vodafone (who are Cityfibre anyway) are going to seriously step up their rollout of Fibre to the premises.
That’s pretty much impossible to build in that time.

Their public plans are 8m (2025) and 5m (2024) respectively. While I’m sure many are stating ambitious build plans to prevent others getting some of Boris’s £5bn actually delivering on it is something else entirely. Unless you mean FTTP will hit 95% including Openreach but I’d still say that’s ambitious.

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VMs days of being the fastest widespread provider are numbered if the proposals i've seen happen.
Cityfibre and Hyperoptic are planning some serious investment to expand to cover 95% of the UK in the next 2 years.
Also the likes of SKY, BT, Vodafone (who are Cityfibre anyway) are going to seriously step up their rollout of Fibre to the premises.
Any links to confirm that, please?

I’ve looked on both sites, and can’t see any dates/rollout schedules.
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Any links to confirm that, please?

I’ve looked on both sites, and can’t see any dates/rollout schedules.
No links only posting what's come through our systems,
keep in mind when we get the documentation it is only at proposal stages, still has to go through a lot of hoops red tape etc to even start going into motion. I think it's more along the lines of what Jfman mentioned it most likely includes Openreach number, i'll check the documentation properly on Friday when i'm back in work, as it came through just as i was finishing so only got quick glance.

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That’s pretty much impossible to build in that time.

Their public plans are 8m (2025) and 5m (2024) respectively. While I’m sure many are stating ambitious build plans to prevent others getting some of Boris’s £5bn actually delivering on it is something else entirely. Unless you mean FTTP will hit 95% including Openreach but I’d still say that’s ambitious.
I'll read the documentation fully tomorrow (Friday) i'm off work today thankfully lol, but i'm inclined to agree with you.
I did postcode check and it says "we are working on coming to your area" my street is still stuck in upto 80mbs lol. Even VM aren't in my block but they are in the house next door, go figure eh?
I have a feeling that those figures we had may include Openreach and VM too, i'll defo check it fully when i'm in office on Friday.
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It might be a good idea to read the documentation more carefully in future before posting incorrect claims here
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I think it’d be hard for the UK to hit 95% gigabit capable coverage by not including the Virgin network by end 2022. The amount of ‘genuine competition’ within that I’d expect to be small.
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