Child grooming gang found guilty
13-05-2012, 22:11
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
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So tell me this.Why is a racially motivated crime deemed MORE important than say white on white crime?Or black on black? Or Asian on Asian?
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It's the same as beating someone to pulp because they are ginger or fat ,It's the idea that they are a lower form of life because they are Asian/white/black or whatever ,and i must say i am very surprised you have to ask that question
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14-05-2012, 08:02
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
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It's the same as beating someone to pulp because they are ginger or fat ,It's the idea that they are a lower form of life because they are Asian/white/black or whatever ,and i must say i am very surprised you have to ask that question
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It may be the same as those two examples but why does it make it more important or more serious than the white on white crime.I'm becoming worried that we may end up with a two tiered system of dealing with crimes like murder if we start to let this sort of differentiating creep into our thinking.
Agreed we mustn't let the authorities treat the public in a racially discriminatory manner and push such crimes to the bottom of the pile but neither should racially motivated crimes be deemed of more importance either.
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18-05-2012, 22:16
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
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A "small minority" of Pakistani men see white girls as "fair game", Baroness Warsi has said.
It is important to "speak out" and acknowledge the problem in order to tackle it, she added.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18117529
Someone else saying what the police don't feel able to.
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19-05-2012, 12:21
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
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Someone else saying what the police don't feel able to.
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It's amazing how the ACPO definition of a racist incident is being completely ignored in this case by almost every senior officer.
If I was the cynical type I might suggest that they are only happy with the definition and the baggage that goes with it when it suits them and their next promotion.
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19-05-2012, 16:41
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
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It's amazing how the ACPO definition of a racist incident is being completely ignored in this case by almost every senior officer.
If I was the cynical type I might suggest that they are only happy with the definition and the baggage that goes with it when it suits them and their next promotion.
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For the police hierarchy and government to admit this was a racial problem would be to admit that their policies on immigration and racial integration are not working
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19-05-2012, 17:13
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
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For the police hierarchy and government to admit this was a racial problem would be to admit that their policies on immigration and racial integration are not working
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And they would be correct
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19-05-2012, 22:59
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
Maggy no one has said that taking a racial motive into account makes the crime more or less serious but if race is a factor in the commission of a crime it should be treated the same as all other factors. Sorry but if this had been a bunch of white men praying on Asian girls you can bet everyone would be talking about a racial side to the case. In that regard we do have a two tiered system and it is disgusting. My ideal world would be one where we all see each other as people and not a skin colour, religion or culture but we don't so can the law at least be even in it's handling of these things rather then perpetuate the idiocy that racism is only the preserve of white against all others .
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21-06-2012, 18:44
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
And the other ******* is now named.
LINK
Yet more offences, throw away the key!!
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21-06-2012, 20:31
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Ditto that. Despicable monster!
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21-06-2012, 20:41
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
Another Asian man. What a shocker.
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21-06-2012, 21:01
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
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Another Asian man. What a shocker.
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What do you mean, Russ?
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21-06-2012, 21:04
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
I mean another Asian man found guilty connected to this gang does not surprise me.
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21-06-2012, 21:09
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
Ok.
well to be honest I wasn't expecting a non Asian man to be connected with it all.
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22-06-2012, 15:12
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
Interestingly enough no one has pointed out that the last victim of this gang to come forward (ii.e. the 17 year old that Khan systematically raped) and who's evidence was instrumental in sentencing him, is in fact Asian. Kind of blows the argument that this Pakistani gang only preyed on white girls and were racially motivated slightly out of the water does it not?
As I said before - gangs like this prey on vunerable people. I expect there will have been other girls who have not come forward - who will not just be from white backgrounds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...onviction.html
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22-06-2012, 15:14
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
Do you not accept there was not at least an element of race in this considering none of the gang members were white?
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