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Old 25-02-2016, 18:26   #151
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Staying behind and meeting the veterans?

I suppose that balances out standing up in honour of the dead IRA terrorists killed by the SAS when they were going to blow up a NI Police Station, then?


Probably the same terrorists who attacked British Army soldiers in Norn Iron.

And here is Mr Corbyn refusing to condemn what the IRA did (with some mealy-mouthed statements about "equivalence".

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/nor...land-1-6957328
Bit surprised you think that balances things out, personally I don't like what he did there or his views on terrorist types in general if they're actually as being reported but then I don't like someone attempting to make political capital out of remembrance day and then not even taking the time to even speak to the actual veterans either.

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You think so?

Perhaps you ought to look at the most recent approval ratings. This graphic is from Britain Elects/Yougov polling:

Are they the same polls that got the last election so wrong? Are they the same ones that has Farage showing worse than corbyn and the less said about tim who the better
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You think so?

Perhaps you ought to look at the most recent approval ratings. This graphic is from Britain Elects/Yougov polling:



It's apt that Corbyn's popularity rating seems all too reminiscent of so many Labour leaders. It also bears a striking resemblance to what the UK's economy would do with more Labour clowns running the show. It won't bother the usual suspects though, they're well used to deluding themselves.
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Are they the same polls that got the last election so wrong? Are they the same ones that has Farage showing worse than corbyn and the less said about tim who the better
Well they're also the same polls that got the Labour leadership election right.

I think the Corbyn supporters are clutching at straws if they are assuming the polls are all wrong. It's not as if there is much about Corbyn's leadership so far that we can look at and assume will do well with the electorate. I don't get where they think this hidden support is going to come from. Not to mention it's historically the Tories, not Labour, who've been underrepresented in opinion polling.
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Well they're also the same polls that got the Labour leadership election right.

I think the Corbyn supporters are clutching at straws if they are assuming the polls are all wrong. It's not as if there is much about Corbyn's leadership so far that we can look at and assume will do well with the electorate. I don't get where they think this hidden support is going to come from. Not to mention it's historically the Tories, not Labour, who've been underrepresented in opinion polling.
Straws are all they have.
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Well they're also the same polls that got the Labour leadership election right.

I think the Corbyn supporters are clutching at straws if they are assuming the polls are all wrong. It's not as if there is much about Corbyn's leadership so far that we can look at and assume will do well with the electorate. I don't get where they think this hidden support is going to come from. Not to mention it's historically the Tories, not Labour, who've been underrepresented in opinion polling.
Polls this early mean very little unless the media's incessant non stories and blatant lies are finally starting to resonate, I mean it was only a couple of months back corbyn was pretty close

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/12...end-otherwise/

Oh and for the record I'm not a corbyn supporter, yet, I just like sticking up for him at the moment because there's so much rubbish written about him, wonder if it's got anything to do with him threatening to break up the press barons

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...n-labour-media
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It's apt that Corbyn's popularity rating seems all too reminiscent of so many Labour leaders. It also bears a striking resemblance to what the UK's economy would do with more Labour clowns running the show. It won't bother the usual suspects though, they're well used to deluding themselves.
Exactly who is Osem aiming to insult here? Kevin Spacey maybe
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

I see the Torys are changing the electorial boundary's again due to population increases aparently! this will loose Labour 24 MPs.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/boundary-changes
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

Just remember Richard they are doing it for the betterment of the country as we are all in this together...
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Actually, they are doing it to standardise the numbers of voters in each constituency....
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The commissions said seats would have to have to have no fewer than 71,031 voters and no more than 78,507. Hundreds of constituencies currently do not reach the minimum number of people.
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Actually, they are doing it to standardise the numbers of voters in each constituency....
Do you think they would be doing it if they were losing the MPs? Honest answers please ..
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Actually, they are doing it to standardise the numbers of voters in each constituency....
Seems reasonable to me.
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Do you think they would be doing it if they were losing the MPs? Honest answers please ..
They're losing 14...

https://www.politicshome.com/party-p...oundary-change
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The Tories don't need to fix the size and nature of constituencies to suit them. Labour wiped themselves out in Scotland and there's no sign of Corbyn's cronies doing any better.
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Political analyst Lewis Baston says marginal constituencies such as Harlow, Stevenage, Great Yarmouth and Carlisle will become more inclined towards the Conservatives

Katie Ghose, chief executive of Electoral Reform, said: “The constituencies which saw the biggest drop are largely student seats and deprived areas — groups which are already under-represented. The areas with the biggest rise are largely wealthier areas. This patchy picture means electoral registration, and the number of parliamentary seats representing each area, is getting more unequal by the year.”
Not good for democracy in this country ..
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Not good for democracy in this country ..
I answered the question you asked - would they be doing this if they were losing MPs, and they are losing MPs.
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Do you think they would be doing it if they were losing the MPs? Honest answers please ..
So it's bad for democracy that constituencies should be roughly the same size?

Perhaps it would help democracy if the students and others registered to vote...
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