VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[denphone]

Some interesting thoughts about Streaming TV here..

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...box=1561631633

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Some interesting thoughts about Streaming TV here..

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...box=1561631633

Yes, exactly as we have been discussing. And as all the pay tv shows migrate to the streaming services, so you ditch the pay tv channels. That will give you the saving for which you pay for the streamers.

[oliver1948uk]

In view of the money we are told Netflix was paying to screen these shows, it seems a big risk foregoing that to set up your own streaming service, not knowing how many people (apart from Old Boy) will pay for your service with so many others entering the market too

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

In view of the money we are told Netflix was paying to screen these shows, it seems a big risk foregoing that to set up your own streaming service, not knowing how many people (apart from Old Boy) will pay for your service with so many others entering the market too

They will have to suck it and see. If it's not as lucrative as they planned, they may have to re-think the exclusivity of the content on their platform.

Netflix and Amazon have proved there is an insatiable appetite for content.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

In view of the money we are told Netflix was paying to screen these shows, it seems a big risk foregoing that to set up your own streaming service, not knowing how many people (apart from Old Boy) will pay for your service with so many others entering the market too

That's what the discussion about streaming is all about.

The existing Hollywood companies currently have guaranteed revenue streams from all the existing deals they have with broadcasters all around the world and streamers like Netflix. But if they withhold their content from other channels and streamers and keep the stuff exclusively on their own streaming services, they lose the guaranteed income with no certainly that they will get enough people to sign up for their own streamers.

If they don't do it, Netflix will destroy them, if they do do it, Netflix might still destroy them. A catch 22 scenario which is why Rupert Murdoch threw in the towel and sold out. That's how big a deal it is. One of the world's largest media companies doesn't exist now because of the threat posed from Netflix and the other tech giants.

[muppetman11]

I don't buy into Netflix destroying them , let's see what happens when Netflix has its third party content pulled and it's starts feeling the competition from the other new entrants.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Horizon

That's what the discussion about streaming is all about.

The existing Hollywood companies currently have guaranteed revenue streams from all the existing deals they have with broadcasters all around the world and streamers like Netflix. But if they withhold their content from other channels and streamers and keep the stuff exclusively on their own streaming services, they lose the guaranteed income with no certainly that they will get enough people to sign up for their own streamers.

If they don't do it, Netflix will destroy them, if they do do it, Netflix might still destroy them. A catch 22 scenario which is why Rupert Murdoch threw in the towel and sold out. That's how big a deal it is. One of the world's largest media companies doesn't exist now because of the threat posed from Netflix and the other tech giants.

Although many of the new streaming companies may choose at first to make their content exclusive to their own streamers, I think that in the end, they will be forced to allow their shows to be screened on other TV channels and streamers like Netflix to make up for lost income. The more streamers there are competing against one another, the more likely this becomes. Good news for the linear TV channels if the content drought for them is eased or comes to an end.

As far as I am concerned as a consumer, an ideal situation would be for all content to be loaded up into the cloud, and for a subscription, to be permitted to watch up to a certain number of hours of content over the month (say 80 hours). After that, a further subscription for the month or PPV would be the option. The studios would get the appropriate cut of that subscription according to the number of views.

Whether that ever comes to pass or not, I have no idea, but it would be a good solution for punters.

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Originally Posted by Horizon

That's what the discussion about streaming is all about.

The existing Hollywood companies currently have guaranteed revenue streams from all the existing deals they have with broadcasters all around the world and streamers like Netflix. But if they withhold their content from other channels and streamers and keep the stuff exclusively on their own streaming services, they lose the guaranteed income with no certainly that they will get enough people to sign up for their own streamers.

If they don't do it, Netflix will destroy them, if they do do it, Netflix might still destroy them. A catch 22 scenario which is why Rupert Murdoch threw in the towel and sold out. That's how big a deal it is. One of the world's largest media companies doesn't exist now because of the threat posed from Netflix and the other tech giants.

I don't see Netflix as a kind of internet monster. Netflix is not specifically out to destroy the competition and I don't see any predatory signs as I did with Sky in the darkest Murdoch days.

The success of each streamer will depend on the quality and genre(s) of its content, the amount of it and value for money compared with the alternatives. Other factors will also come into it, such as whether an AVOD alternative is available for those who do not wish to subscribe, whether they are accessible on all major platforms and whether they agree to being part of bundled services on these platforms.

Eleven Sports is an example of what happens when you can't get onto a major platform, although other factors were also at play in that example.

[vincerooney]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

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Eleven Sports is an example of what happens when you can't get onto a major platform, although other factors were also at play in that example.

I just hope Eleven Sports completely disappears. I'd be okay if Amazon want to get Serie A and La Liga mind. Should be fairly cheap for Amazon too and can add more to their sports selections

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I don't buy into Netflix destroying them , let's see what happens when Netflix has its third party content pulled and it's starts feeling the competition from the other new entrants.

Not a chance.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

I don't buy into Netflix destroying them , let's see what happens when Netflix has its third party content pulled and it's starts feeling the competition from the other new entrants.

Then their real test will come as the several more 80lb gorillas enter the ring.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

I just hope Eleven Sports completely disappears. I'd be okay if Amazon want to get Serie A and La Liga mind. Should be fairly cheap for Amazon too and can add more to their sports selections

That will not happen Vince.

[ozsat]

For those with Amazon Prime - there are a few 50% off for 3 month deals on some of the Prime Video Channels. Includes MGM, StartzPlay, Shudder, HPlay.

[jfman]

Smells of desperation to me...

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

Smells of desperation to me...

Its not the first time they have had it..

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Its not the first time they have had it..

What, more desperate than Now TV, where the deals even for existing customers are permanently available?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What, more desperate than Now TV, where the deals even for existing customers are permanently available?

We were actually talking about Amazon Prime and some of their Prime Video Channels OB.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What, more desperate than Now TV, where the deals even for existing customers are permanently available?

Well spotted , I agree this is the challenge for the streamers when the consumer has the ability to leave at any stage.