Corbyn's kerfuffle

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You’re not very good at this.

Better than you though.

Still don't see what objection you have to all prejudice being challenged, and not just the one that suits you?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Better than you though.

Still don't see what objection you have to all prejudice being challenged, and not just the one that suits you?

Debatable.

I have no objection, prejudice should be challenged.

But this thread is about Corbyn and the Labour/momentum party’s anti-Semitic issues, but instead of engaging in that you instantly whip up a bought of whataboutism to deflect away from the issue.

I’m all for debating any anti-Islamic issues the Tory party may have, but if you want a proper debate, start a new a thread and let’s get down to it, and not use this one to deflect away from the issues that Labour/ momentum have.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Debatable.

I have no objection, prejudice should be challenged.

But this thread is about Corbyn and the Labour/momentum party’s anti-Semitic issues, but instead of engaging in that you instantly whip up a bought of whataboutism to deflect away from the issue.

I’m all for debating any anti-Islamic issues the Tory party may have, but if you want a proper debate, start a new a thread and let’s get down to it, and not use this one to deflect away from the issues that Labour/ momentum have.

The issue was a new item today on the BBC website. Didn't realise it was a Corbyn bashing thread only, but guess it is CF after all !

Seems reasonable to point out similar prejudice elsewhere whilst acknowledging the issues Labour have which I did in my post earlier today.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Better than you though.

Have I walked in to the school playground on here tonight?

This is seriously infantile, "I am better than you." - "No, I am better than you!"

May I take this opportunity to remind ALL members that the Member Holidays system is still active and they will be issued if this approach to discussions continues.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The issue was a new item today on the BBC website. Didn't realise it was a Corbyn bashing thread only, but guess it is CF after all !

Clue really is in the title. Non?

Not Corbyn bashing, but discussing Corbyn iteration of the Labour Party.

Seems reasonable to point out similar prejudice elsewhere whilst acknowledging the issues Labour have which I did in my post earlier today.

If you have a passionate point of view of the anti - Muslim tories, start a new thread, so things don’t get confused.

[TheDaddy]

Odd isn't it, Ally Campbell can be booted out in 24hrs for the crime of voting liberal but the Jew haters seemingly can't be booted after what is now many months of waiting

[denphone]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Odd isn't it, Ally Campbell can be booted out in 24hrs for the crime of voting liberal but the Jew haters seemingly can't be booted after what is now many months of waiting

Indeed as like all voters Alastair Campbell lives in a democracy and has the free right to vote for whoever he wants to as to be booted out for that is a utter disgrace in my book while anti-Semitism in the Labour party has become endemic and widespread with those who have committed anti-Semitism seemingly still free within the party to preach such terrible prejudice.

Originally Posted by denphone

Indeed as like all voters Alastair Campbell lives in a democracy and has the free right to vote for whoever he wants to as to be booted out for that is a utter disgrace in my book while anti-Semitism in the Labour party has become endemic and widespread with those who have committed anti-Semitism seemingly still free within the party to preach such terrible prejudice.

It’s not so much the voting (which is secret) but the public supporting of a rival party that has upset them. To be fair, if you’re a member of any organisation you’re generally expected to support its aims and certainly not act directly against them. Although in this case I’m sure it’s no coincidence that Campbell is intimately connected with the New Labour project which the Corbynistas now in charge of the party hate almost as much as they hate everyone else who isn’t a Corbynista.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

It’s not so much the voting (which is secret) but the public supporting of a rival party that has upset them. To be fair, if you’re a member of any organisation you’re generally expected to support its aims and certainly not act directly against them. Although in this case I’m sure it’s no coincidence that Campbell is intimately connected with the New Labour project which the Corbynistas now in charge of the party hate almost as much as they hate everyone else who isn’t a Corbynista.

Mmm, which maybe also explains why Lord Heseltine (aka 'Tarzan') has had the Conservative whip withdrawn. Too moderate, business focussed and sensible for the Conservatives these days ....

Originally Posted by Mr K

Mmm, which maybe also explains why Lord Heseltine (aka 'Tarzan') has had the Conservative whip withdrawn. Too moderate, business focussed and sensible for the Conservatives these days ....

Withdrawing the whip and expulsion from the party aren’t quite the same thing ... whip withdrawal is a kind of indefinite suspension. In any case, it’s being pointed out this morning that Charles Falconer has also admitted to voting Lib Dem in the past, yet without getting a sound kicking from Corbyn’s Sturmabteilung.

Also Andrew Fisher, a Corbyn aid, was a member at a time he advocated voting Green over Labour before an election. He got a suspension but was not kicked out right away and indeed came back.

[Mr K]

If I were any of these expelled, whip withdrawn, Labour/Tory politicians, I would take my bat and ball and go to the Lib Dems. After all they are a bigger party according to the EU election results.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

If I were any of these expelled, whip withdrawn, Labour/Tory politicians, I would take my bat and ball and go to the Lib Dems. After all they are a bigger party according to the EU election results.

Things are never as simple as that as you well know Mr K.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mr K

If I were any of these expelled, whip withdrawn, Labour/Tory politicians, I would take my bat and ball and go to the Lib Dems. After all they are a bigger party according to the EU election results.

Really? Did they get a larger slice of the vote than the Brexit Party or are you just making things up again?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Really? Did they get a larger slice of the vote than the Brexit Party or are you just making things up again?

Bigger than either the Tories or Labour.....

The Brexit party will be like UKIP, gone tomorrow...