Trump’s Troubles

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by jfman

If we take a step back how many vying to lead the Conservative Party have tried to portray themselves as following in the footsteps of Thatcher?

Didn't do this guy any good....
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[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And what happens to the party after the 77 year old morbidly obese junk food eating heart attack waiting to happen is not with us any more?

I think that will depend very much on who Trump tries to anoint as his successor.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I think that will depend very much on who Trump tries to anoint as his successor.

Let me guess, Trump Jr....

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And the orange one is now promising a 'bloodbath' if he's not elected by one means or another....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2513829.html

No wonder he admires Putin, not much difference in their election tactics.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Let me guess, Trump Jr....

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And the orange one is now promising a 'bloodbath' if he's not elected by one means or another....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2513829.html

No wonder he admires Putin, not much difference in their election tactics.

He said it will be a bloodbath for the US auto industry and economy, if he isn’t elected.

Meaning the democrats will destroy both.

But he’s used to having his words twisted.

Originally Posted by Pierre

He said it will be a bloodbath for the US auto industry and economy, if he isn’t elected.

Meaning the democrats will destroy both.

But he’s used to having his words twisted.

What he actually said

“Now we’re going to put a 100 percent tariff on every single car that comes across [the] line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those guys — if I get elected,” he said. “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.”

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

What he actually said

I’m well aware of the whole quote, I read it, and the context of which it was given.

And I again repeat he was referring to the economic impact to the auto industry and the economy as a whole.

Unless you think he was talking about something else, happy to hear what you think he was talking about?

I think he is deliberately vague, with the intent of being misinterpreted by his supporters to incite their anger (stochastic terrorism) and to then lash out at the mainstream media for taking a different interpretation. He frequently changes subject mid-sentence, causing confusion about what he’s talking about - deliberately or not, not sure…

Who uses "bloodbath" in reference to the auto industry?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I think he is deliberately vague, with the intent of being misinterpreted by his supporters to incite their anger (stochastic terrorism) and to then lash out at the mainstream media for taking a different interpretation.

The poor innocent media….fine people on both sides……Jan 6th…..they do have a habit of misinterpreting.

He frequently changes subject mid-sentence, causing confusion about what he’s talking about - deliberately or not, not sure…

I think deliberate would be giving him way too much credit.

His fuller quote was this, in referring to factories China is building in Mexico to sell EV cars into the USA

, "If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now… you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected."

"Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole auto industry – that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. if I’m elected They’re building massive factories."

Words in bold added by me

Who uses "bloodbath" in reference to the auto industry?

Well he wasn’t talking about anything else, at the time.

It makes no difference what ‘bloodbath’ was in reference to. Responsible politicians don’t use such turns of phrase because they know they rile up extremists. Extremist politicians do use such terms for the same reason.

[jfman]

On the same basis, responsible media outlets shouldn’t report the statements out of context.

[Hom3r]

Because of their age and health I'd be surprised if either see the end of their term.


TBPH no one should be allowed to run if they hit 74 during their term.


As Billy Connolly said "My dad's younger and we don't give him the remote for the TV"

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

TBPH no one should be allowed to run if they hit 74 during their term.

It’s strange as there is a lower limit.


I disagree though, age should not be a limiting factor.

Capability should though, and Biden is clearly incapable.

[jfman]

If you are going to upper age limit the President (not an unreasonable step IMHO) the same should apply to Congress.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

If you are going to upper age limit the President (not an unreasonable step IMHO) the same should apply to Congress.

Agreed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/18/trum...wyers-say.html

Donald Trump cannot obtain a bond to secure the $454 million civil business fraud judgment against him as he pursues an appeal of the case, his attorneys said in a New York court filing Monday.

Attorneys for Trump and his co-defendants in the fraud case argued that it was “impossible” for them to secure a complete appeal bond, which would “effectively” require “cash reserves approaching $1 billion.”

″Defendants’ ongoing diligent efforts have proven that a bond in the judgment’s full amount is ‘a practical impossibility,’” the lawyers wrote, quoting an affidavit in the filing with the Appellate Division of Manhattan Supreme Court.

They said they have approached roughly 30 surety companies through four separate brokers, and that they have spent “countless hours negotiating with one of the largest insurance companies in the world.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...d-is-struggle/

In an April 2023 deposition, Trump volunteered that he had “substantially in excess of 400 million in cash.”

“Developers usually don’t have cash. They have assets, not cash,” Trump said. “We have, I believe, 400 plus and going up very substantially every month.”

Trump added later that, despite the legal fees he was facing, “I have over 400 — fairly substantially over $400 million in cash. That’s just cash. That’s just cash.”