13-01-2019, 09:54
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The Pro-Brexit "yellow vests" were handing out these fliers in London today showing a list of the things they, the U.K. Yellow Vests, stand for - I think they meant "against" rather "for" most of the items.
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Hilarious in a twisted kind of way.
They don't seem to have learnt from the populists with their more memorable (albeit undeliverable) slogans of "lock her up", "take back control", "build the wall".
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I watch Strictly but don't order pizza. A better analogy would be BB or Love Island (neither of which I watch). Strictly is frightfully middle class don't you know?
Would rather see A50 extended and an acceptable deal worked out, than dropping of a cliff edge into no deal.
Before the referendum was called, I suspect no thought whatsoever was given to the NI border issues relating to the GFA. May getting into bed with the DUP has hampered negotiations ever since, but the election results meant to govern she needed other support.
Adversarial politics mean we are where we are.
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Don't think the EU is keen on an extension just for more negotiations but it knows that a no-deal is not good for anyone. Due to the delay in negotiations, there are now two things to sort out and not one.
1) Withdrawal Agreement. This is meant to be a fairly quick agreement around costs due etc. Theresa May laid down her red lines so the options open should be relatively straightforward.
2) Free trade agreement. This is where the negotiations really begin eg fishing rights, degree of commons standards, access to each other's markets, etc. The EU is saving its energies for this as it will be a long-term situation.
The NI border was flagged up but derided as Project Fear. I think some on here even mentioned it as a non-issue invented by Remainers.
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13-01-2019, 11:02
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Re: Brexit
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Lol, thank you for your contribution from the next world. 
Meanwhile, Theresa May could be facing a coup if she loses the vote on Tuesday. The Sunday Times reports that a cross-party group of backbenchers are planning to take control of exit talks if her plan falls through.
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They love their 'plots' these unimaginative headline writers. Also.'traitors' and 'saboteurs' are favourite ones.
The Fail has.maged to get 2 of them into one headline, well done !
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13-01-2019, 11:09
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Re: Brexit
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They love their 'plots' these unimaginative headline writers. Also.'traitors' and 'saboteurs' are favourite ones.
The Fail has.maged to get 2 of them into one headline, well done !
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No one is a traitor and no one is a saboteur as some in this country need to get a grip as that language helps no one at the end of the day..
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13-01-2019, 11:16
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Re: Brexit
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No one is a traitor and no one is a saboteur as some in this country need to get a grip as that language helps no one at the end of the day..
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Well that's certainly an opinion den but clearly one that is not shared by many members of the public or voters as they like to be called.
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13-01-2019, 11:26
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
No one is a traitor and no one is a saboteur as some in this country need to get a grip as that language helps no one at the end of the day..
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True
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Well that's certainly an opinion den but clearly one that is not shared by many members of the public or voters as they like to be called.
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No. MPs were selected by the majority of voters in their respective constituencies. Claiming they are traitors for looking out for what they see as the best interests of their constituents is typical DM/Express tension stirring.
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13-01-2019, 11:34
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Re: Brexit
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No one is a traitor and no one is a saboteur as some in this country need to get a grip as that language helps no one at the end of the day..
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Guy Fawkes was the only decent 'plotter'. Country might rue the day he failed....
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13-01-2019, 11:34
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Angua
True
No. MPs were selected by the majority of voters in their respective constituencies. Claiming they are traitors for looking out for what they see as the best interests of their constituents is typical DM/Express tension stirring.
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Once again that's an interesting opinion that you have, but i think it's the way many people feel and that's why the papers print it .
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13-01-2019, 11:42
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Re: Brexit
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Once again that's an interesting opinion that you have, but i think it's the way many people feel and that's why the papers print it .
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Wrong papa as the papers print it to stir it up hate and dissent with their irresponsible front page banner headlines.
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13-01-2019, 11:49
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Re: Brexit
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Wrong papa as the papers print it to stir it up hate and dissent with their irresponsible front page banner headlines.
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People buy papers that reflect their politics/views .
You can't just dismiss my comments as wrong just because it makes you feel uncomfortable because you buy a paper with a different political bias.
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13-01-2019, 11:54
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Once again that's an interesting opinion that you have, but i think it's the way many people feel and that's why the papers print it .
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Which came first, the papers printing the claims, or the agreement with those particular papers?
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13-01-2019, 11:58
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
People buy papers that reflect their politics/views .
You can't just dismiss my comments as wrong just because it makes you feel uncomfortable because you buy a paper with a different political bias.
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l am not dismissing anybody's comments as l am just stating that many of the headlines we have seen in these past two years have been irresponsible front page grabbing headlines.
l don't buy newspapers as they have basically gone too far away from what a newspaper should be printing and have basically become nothing more then their owners own political vehicle.
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13-01-2019, 12:08
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Re: Brexit
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People buy papers that reflect their politics/views .
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Think it's more a case of some people buy papers to tell them what to think ( to save themselves the bother). Their circulation continues to fall though.
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13-01-2019, 12:38
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Re: Brexit
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Think it's more a case of some people buy papers to tell them what to think ( to save themselves the bother). Their circulation continues to fall though.
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Yes the Guardian and the independent have a lot to answer for.
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13-01-2019, 12:40
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Re: Brexit
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Yes the Guardian and the independent have a lot to answer for.
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Along with many of the others...
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13-01-2019, 12:56
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Re: Brexit
Going round in circles now - please move on
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