[Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Not you. Calm down dear.

It won’t prevent accidents. An accident happens, erm, accidentally whether you have a reg plate or not.

It won’t keep children safe; it may expose them to malicious fake reports; it may lead to the stress of stolen/swapped/lost number plates.

Let kids ride a bike and enjoy their school time without watching their every move. Dear Lord.

In other contexts, you would normally hear cries of "Nanny State!" but not here .. strange.

We over control our children as it is ..

[Stephen]

I think its more about trying to protect the children and stop then getting knocked down or causing trouble when they are on their way to/from school.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by ianch99

In other contexts, you would normally hear cries of "Nanny State!" but not here .. strange.

We over control our children as it is ..

CF is a tech forum - a propensity for selfish lardiness is to be expected .

Originally Posted by Stephen

I think its more about trying to protect the children and stop then getting knocked down or causing trouble when they are on their way to/from school.

But how does it protect them and how does it stop them getting knocked down and will all those who don't cycle to school be free to cause trouble without reproach?

[Stephen]

Cyclist dies in collision with a car


Deptford road crash: Cyclist dies in collision with car - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45692561

.cyclist has died in a collision involving a car in London.

The crash happened near the junction of Bestwood Street and Evelyn Street, a busy road in Deptford, in the south-east of the city, at about 10:15 BST.

The driver of the car stopped and paramedics attended, but the man died at the scene.

[Sephiroth]

It’s Sunday and the Lycra brigade are out in force being the usual nuisance on the country roads round here.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It’s Sunday and the Lycra brigade are out in force being the usual nuisance on the country roads round here.

******Breaking news*******


I have just seen a cyclist stop for a red light, i need to go and have a stiff whiskey to control the shock


******Breaking news*******

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It’s Sunday and the Lycra brigade are out in force being the usual nuisance on the country roads round here.

Great post. How about an update on how your paint is drying?

Originally Posted by Sirius

******Breaking news*******
I have just seen a cyclist stop for a red light, i need to go and have a stiff whiskey to control the shock
******Breaking news*******

Stopping at red lights is now our preferred way of annoying motorists. The old 'ignore red lights' rule was fun but the new 'stop-and-get-in-the-way-for-longer' rule is so much better.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Not you. Calm down dear.

It won’t prevent accidents. An accident happens, erm, accidentally whether you have a reg plate or not.

It won’t keep children safe; it may expose them to malicious fake reports; it may lead to the stress of stolen/swapped/lost number plates.

Let kids ride a bike and enjoy their school time without watching their every move. Dear Lord.

Yes, but people behave differently when they know they are being watched or can be easily traced.

As for your 'malicious fake reports' line, maybe motorists shouldn't have number plates any more either.

I think it is the anonymity that makes many cyclists more reckless. Nobody can identify you if they want to report you, and this makes many of them just do as they please. There needs to be a clamp down.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, but people behave differently when they know they are being watched or can be easily traced.

As for your 'malicious fake reports' line, maybe motorists shouldn't have number plates any more either.

I think it is the anonymity that makes many cyclists more reckless. Nobody can identify you if they want to report you, and this makes many of them just do as they please. There needs to be a clamp down.

Exactly!

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, but people behave differently when they know they are being watched or can be easily traced.

As for your 'malicious fake reports' line, maybe motorists shouldn't have number plates any more either.

I think it is the anonymity that makes many cyclists more reckless. Nobody can identify you if they want to report you, and this makes many of them just do as they please. There needs to be a clamp down.

So, everyone should wear an overt number so they can be watched and easily traced? Think it through.

Motorists have number plates to confirm compliance with license requirements, emissions limitations, MOT's, insurance etc; none of which apply to cyclists. Gawd, how many times....

My advice to the kids going to this school (you do remember that the discussion is about children being monitored don't you?) is to only display the issued number when at school. What they do outside school is none of the headmaster's business.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Exactly!

Exactly! he simpered.

[Stephen]

Licence plates are also used to trace the owner if the break the law.

So yes your paranoia about tracking is there for a reason.

Stop people doing bad or silly things they shouldn't be.

Make cyclists on the road have insurance and a registration.

It will cut down on incidents and cyclists generally being itiots.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It will cut down on incidents and cyclists generally being itiots.

Who exactly are you calling an itiot?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Licence plates are also used to trace the owner if the break the law.

So yes your paranoia about tracking is there for a reason.

Stop people doing bad or silly things they shouldn't be.

Make cyclists on the road have insurance and a registration.

It will cut down on incidents and cyclists generally being itiots.

Absolutely.

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by denphone

Absolutely.

I agree

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Times:


The number of pedestrians hit by bicycles has increased to its highest level in at least five years just as the government prepares to crack down on dangerous cyclists.

Figures published by the Department for Transport (DfT) show that 531 people were involved in collisions with cyclists in 2017, up by 15 per cent in 12 months. The accident rate was higher than at any time since at least 2013 when the statistics were first published. More than 120 pedestrians were seriously hurt in collisions with bikes last year and three were killed, the figures show.

Something has to be done so that those responsible can be identified and if necessary prosecuted and provide restitution to their victims.

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