18-10-2021, 12:19
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Re: Coronavirus
Boris and Carrie Johnson accused of breaching lockdown rules
Boris Johnson and his wife Carrie have been accused of breaching lockdown rules last Christmas by spending the day at Downing Street with a friend.
Just before Christmas 2020 the Government scrapped plans for an easing of lockdown rules - and Tier Four rules were put in place across the South East of England.
That meant a ban on mixing with anyone not from your household indoors - even on Christmas Day.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...aching-6074159
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18-10-2021, 12:24
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Re: Coronavirus
Well, that's just shocking...
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18-10-2021, 12:39
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Re: Coronavirus
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Unlike you to be so lax.
https://app.box.com/s/iddfb4ppwkmtjusir2tc
The above links you to the JCVI minutes page; the Agendas page shows no meetings between Feb 21 and June 21, for which minutes were published.
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How very strange - the June minutes have no mention of COVID, except in relation to the impact it has had on other vaccination programmes…
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%...w/849032554320
Also strange that there were no meetings (or minutes of meetings) at a time the Delta variant was hitting the U.K.
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18-10-2021, 12:54
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Boris and Carrie Johnson accused of breaching lockdown rules
Boris Johnson and his wife Carrie have been accused of breaching lockdown rules last Christmas by spending the day at Downing Street with a friend.
Just before Christmas 2020 the Government scrapped plans for an easing of lockdown rules - and Tier Four rules were put in place across the South East of England.
That meant a ban on mixing with anyone not from your household indoors - even on Christmas Day.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...aching-6074159
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The first thing to note is the denial is that lockdown rules weren’t broken, not that she wasn’t there.
Without knowing the living arrangements of the guest we can only assume she was in a support bubble with them and not a “Christmas bubble”. One quirk of the support bubble was that you could change it as often as you liked, although guidance advised to not form another bubble for a period of time (10 or 14 days if I recall) this wasn’t mandatory.
I don’t feel particularly strongly about the story if the alternative was for their guest to spend Christmas Day alone.
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18-10-2021, 13:15
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
The first thing to note is the denial is that lockdown rules weren’t broken, not that she wasn’t there.
Without knowing the living arrangements of the guest we can only assume she was in a support bubble with them and not a “Christmas bubble”. One quirk of the support bubble was that you could change it as often as you liked, although guidance advised to not form another bubble for a period of time (10 or 14 days if I recall) this wasn’t mandatory.
I don’t feel particularly strongly about the story if the alternative was for their guest to spend Christmas Day alone.
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That's a good point, if she lived alone and wasn't part of another support bubble she could have formed one with Boris and Carrie, provided they weren't in another.
She has denied any wrongdoing also.
I haven't seen anything indicating whether or not their guest is/was in a relationship, but Wikipedia suggests she was (when younger) a victim of FGM, so that may suggest not...
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18-10-2021, 13:30
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Boris and Carrie Johnson accused of breaching lockdown rules
Boris Johnson and his wife Carrie have been accused of breaching lockdown rules last Christmas by spending the day at Downing Street with a friend.
Just before Christmas 2020 the Government scrapped plans for an easing of lockdown rules - and Tier Four rules were put in place across the South East of England.
That meant a ban on mixing with anyone not from your household indoors - even on Christmas Day.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...aching-6074159
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Some young hack at the Grimsby Telegraph thinking they may have story that could get them noticed! I'm sure all of Grimsby are furious at this news.
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18-10-2021, 13:50
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Re: Coronavirus
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Some young hack at the Grimsby Telegraph thinking they may have story that could get them noticed! I'm sure all of Grimsby are furious at this news.
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It's the Grimsby Herald reporting a story in The Mirror which itself was reporting a story in Harper's.
Evidently, not much local news or reporters in Grimsby at the moment, so they are resorting to such page-fillers.
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18-10-2021, 14:30
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Re: Coronavirus
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It's the Grimsby Herald reporting a story in The Mirror which itself was reporting a story in Harper's.
Evidently, not much local news or reporters in Grimsby at the moment, so they are resorting to such page-fillers.
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Regional titles have always carried a few pages of national news. Most parts of the country just don’t generate enough news to fill the pages 5 or 6 nights a week. In this case the piece is bylined to a “network content editor”, who seemingly produces national copy for all of Reach’s regional titles.
Reach, incidentally, is the publisher formerly known as Trinity Mirror, which (aside from being my former employer) also owns the Daily Mirror.
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18-10-2021, 16:39
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Boris and Carrie Johnson accused of breaching lockdown rules
Boris Johnson and his wife Carrie have been accused of breaching lockdown rules last Christmas by spending the day at Downing Street with a friend.
Just before Christmas 2020 the Government scrapped plans for an easing of lockdown rules - and Tier Four rules were put in place across the South East of England.
That meant a ban on mixing with anyone not from your household indoors - even on Christmas Day.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...aching-6074159
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I see the old ‘gotcha’ mentality is still alive and kicking.
I mean, who cares?
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18-10-2021, 16:42
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Re: Coronavirus
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I see the old ‘gotcha’ mentality is still alive and kicking.
I mean, who cares?
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the people who had xmas ruined might be a bit put out.
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18-10-2021, 16:46
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
the people who had xmas ruined might be a bit put out.
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Maybe they should have been a bit more adventurous.
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18-10-2021, 17:02
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I see the old ‘gotcha’ mentality is still alive and kicking.
I mean, who cares?
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I agree - why should those who set the rules, and who tell everyone else to follow the rules, follow the rules themselves.
Good point, well made…
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18-10-2021, 17:19
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I see the old ‘gotcha’ mentality is still alive and kicking.
I mean, who cares?
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As others have said, if you set the rules, you have to be squeaky clean following them, or you will look like you expect others to do as you say but not do the same.
This may well have been allowed, but potentially not in the best taste in the circumstances. Like all the other technicalities from the pandemic like Cummings, Jenrick, Hancock etc etc. Perhaps all allowed on some sort of loophole but definitely not in the general spirit the rules were there for.
When your response is being criticised, and received a fair amount of such at the time too, for being too slow and not hard enough, as well as giving out multi million pound contracts to your friends with little experience or suitability to do the job, as well as this, it doesn't make you look good, and gradually erodes the public support for what you're doing. Yes it was uncharted territory, but, that doesn't excuse not following the clear rules you expected others to follow.
It's just another to add to the list of shame and I'm a Tory and (reasonably speaking) pro-Johnson.
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18-10-2021, 19:04
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Hugh
I agree - why should those who set the rules, and who tell everyone else to follow the rules, follow the rules themselves.
Good point, well made…
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Except….
https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/18/boris...tmas-15443718/
Gotcha!
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18-10-2021, 19:19
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
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Bless…
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The prime minister’s official spokesman refused to confirm whether Ms Ali joined the Johnsons in No 10.
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After, the PM is renowned for his veracity and adherence to the rules…
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