U.S Election 2016

Originally Posted by Pierre

Bollocks, you don't know him, you don't know anything about him.

You have an opinion of him from what you have read from 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand from predominantly left wing media.

So you can't "as a person" and don't pretend you can.

Yes i have an opinion the same as you have an opinion ,and my opinion is that he is a racist,sexist, bully .Strangely enough people do form opinions about people from what they see on the news ,from what they see the person in question say on tv and from what they read about the person ,that's pretty much what everybody does

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Bollocks, you don't know him, you don't know anything about him.

You have an opinion of him from what you have read from 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand from predominantly left wing media.

So you can't "as a person" and don't pretend you can.

The left wing media isn't in charge of his tweeting machine, you can learn quite a lot about him and his personality in 140 characters

Originally Posted by martyh

Yes i have an opinion the same as you have an opinion ,and my opinion is that he is a racist,sexist, bully

Glad you accept that is all it is and not stating it as fact.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

If you say so, I disagree. Stop trying to force your views on me, it won't work.

He is not forcing his views on you. He is is saying you are factually incorrect. There is a difference.

Electorate:

all the people in a country or area who are entitled to vote in an election

Kursk said:

The President is acting on his word which is what his supporters, the majority of the electorate, expect ...

and he was wrong.

End of discussion.

[Pierre]

Well to be accurate he should have said " the majority of the electorite that cast a vote"

As the majority of the electorate may well be Trump supporters, but they just didn't vote on the day.

Originally Posted by ianch99

He is not forcing his views on you. He is is saying you are factually incorrect. There is a difference.

But I'm not incorrect.

Kursk said:



and he was wrong.

End of discussion.

Not end of discussion. Because you are wrong. It is States which determines the Presidency, not the entire voting population. Trump won more States, so Kursk is right based on how the democracy system works in the US.

[Osem]

I think the main problem was that the Trump voters didn't really know what they were voting for whereas the Clinton voters did...

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

But I'm not incorrect.





Not end of discussion. Because you are wrong. It is States which determines the Presidency, not the entire voting population. Trump won more States, so Kursk is right based on how the democracy system works in the US.

Except he isn't right because that isn't what he said, I really don't get the issue here and neither does the donald, if he'd wanted to win the majority of votes he would've just done so

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...-tweets-232879

[nomadking]

He is allowed in law and by the constitution to impose a ban in the first place, so what criteria would be acceptable? Anything other than a complete worldwide ban is going to have an inherent bias to one group or another.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Osem

I think the main problem was that the Trump voters didn't really know what they were voting for whereas the Clinton voters did...

Correct, There should be another vote to determine the outcome of the previous vote.

[Gavin78]

Originally Posted by Osem

I think the main problem was that the Trump voters didn't really know what they were voting for whereas the Clinton voters did...

lets have a vote to counter a voter to counter that vote oh well you know......

I actually like the guy

Appeals court has just rejected Trumps appeal

sky breaking news

[Pierre]

And to high light the double standards we have this.

Does Trump beheading cartoon go too far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38870587

I don't think it goes too far, it's a good cartoon but can you imagine the outrage if it was Muslim being depicted in this way? Let alone if it was a leader of one of the banned states being depicted in this way? They'd all be out burning the Stars and Stripes again.

Originally Posted by martyh

Appeals court has just rejected Trumps appeal

sky breaking news

I assume that's just saying they can't put the ban in whilst they await a proper ruling? Seems awfully fast otherwise.

Originally Posted by Pierre

And to high light the double standards we have this.

Does Trump beheading cartoon go too far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38870587

I don't think it goes too far, it's a good cartoon but can you imagine the outrage if it was Muslim being depicted in this way? Let alone if it was a leader of one of the banned states being depicted in this way? They'd all be out burning the Stars and Stripes again.

I agree it is a good cartoon and gets the message across ,it shows Trump beheading democracy ,can't see how it's double standards though.

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Originally Posted by Damien

I assume that's just saying they can't put the ban in whilst they await a proper ruling? Seems awfully fast otherwise.

No that's the ruling by the appeal court ,the only avenue open for trump now is through the supreme court

The US federal appeals court has rejected the Trump administration's request to immediately reinstate a travel ban blocked by a federal judge on Friday.
The ban targeted people from seven mainly Muslim countries.
State lawyers had argued it was unconstitutional and discriminatory.
The federal judge in Seattle had ruled against government lawyers' claims that states did not have the standing to challenge Mr Trump's executive order.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38872680