PM Boris forms a government

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Damien

Ireland is being backed up the European Union, one of the biggest economic blocs in the world if not the biggest.

Ah, right, that dwindling economy...

[heero_yuy]

Quote from Kantar:

Public voting intentions

Conservative 42%
Labour 28%
Liberal Democrats 15%
The Brexit Party 5%
SNP 5%, Green 3%, The Independent Group for Change 1%, Other 1%, UKIP <0.5%, Plaid Cymru <0.5%

As of August 21st.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Damien

Ireland is being backed up the European Union, one of the biggest economic blocs in the world if not the biggest.

They'll have plenty of money to build that wall then

[denphone]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

As of August 21st.

A possible election landslide then in early November...

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

As of August 21st.

Amusingly, when I clicked on that link, I got this...

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Ah, right, that dwindling economy...

Dwindling means "gradually diminishing".

Since the EU economy is forecast to grow by 1.4% this year and 1.6% next year, how can it be "dwindling’?

And if it is, and the U.K. economy is forecast to grow by 1.3% this year and 1.2% for next year, does that mean the U.K. economy is dwindling even faster?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Dwindling means "gradually diminishing".

Since the EU economy is forecast to grow by 1.4% this year and 1.6% next year, how can it be "dwindling’?

What's the forcast if we remain in the union?

[heero_yuy]

@Hugh Yes, there are a number of different polls on that page. All depends on the question.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Dwindling means "gradually diminishing".

Since the EU economy is forecast to grow by 1.4% this year and 1.6% next year, how can it be "dwindling’?

And if it is, and the U.K. economy is forecast to grow by 1.3% this year and 1.2% for next year, does that mean the U.K. economy is dwindling even faster?

Sorry, I meant diminishing in comparison with other large economies of the world.

The UK's economy is growing slower than it should be at the moment due to uncertainty over Brexit, but after 31 October, we will start to turn the corner. There is no reason not to expect real dynamism in the economy once the dust settles.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Sorry, I meant diminishing in comparison with other large economies of the world.

The UK's economy is growing slower than it should be at the moment due to uncertainty over Brexit, but after 31 October, we will start to turn the corner. There is no reason not to expect real dynamism in the economy once the dust settles.

Is that prediction based on the same optimism your GATT 24 agreement being a given was based on? You do seem to have walked away from that prediction in the last few weeks so you must forgive me if I'm a bit sceptical as far as your predictions are concerned.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Is that prediction based on the same optimism your GATT 24 agreement being a given was based on? You do seem to have walked away from that prediction in the last few weeks so you must forgive me if I'm a bit sceptical as far as your predictions are concerned.

No, I have not walked away from that idea at all. However, the Government is now focussed on getting a more suitable deal, so implementing Article 24 won't be necessary, assuming the EU give way.

If there is no deal, all that has to be done is for a document to be produced about what both sides want from a trade deal. If that is agreed by both sides (and why wouldn't it be?) then Article 24 can be applied.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Sorry, I meant diminishing in comparison with other large economies of the world.

The UK's economy is growing slower than it should be at the moment due to uncertainty over Brexit, but after 31 October, we will start to turn the corner. There is no reason not to expect real dynamism in the economy once the dust settles.

The USA GDP growth forecast is 2.1% for 2019 (from 2.9% in 2018), 2% in 2020, and 1.8% in 2021.

Japan 0.9% in 2019, 0.7% in 2020, 0.6% in 2021.

Canada 1.9% in 2020, 1.8% 2021

So, no...

[jfman]

Old Boy doesn't work with facts based in economics. Conjecture and opinion is more his game.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, I have not walked away from that idea at all. However, the Government is now focussed on getting a more suitable deal, so implementing Article 24 won't be necessary, assuming the EU give way.

If there is no deal, all that has to be done is for a document to be produced about what both sides want from a trade deal. If that is agreed by both sides (and why wouldn't it be?) then Article 24 can be applied.

..... because that perfidious EU crapped on us right at the start, when it should have been easy.

Boris has his work cut out.

Originally Posted by Hugh

You say "do this country down", other say "being realistic"...

One of the largest economies in the world is true, but we used to be the 4th largest, now we are 7th (in one measure, we are 9th)

We do punch above our weight, due to historical reasons, but the modern world is made up of economic groupings, as they carry more weight than individual countries - just look at some of the trade deals we have completed so far, which include the groupings of Central America, Andean countries, Caribbean countries, and Eastern and Southern Africa.

We don’t punch enough, we’re handicapped, thanks to the corrupted EU, you and other Remainers, selfishly want to stay aligned to them for weak economic reasons and despite them being corrupted to the core and totally undemocratic, just look at the pathetic European Commission President selection process, they’ve appointed a totally failing German minister, deeply unpopular within Germany and the cancerous EU pretends to be Democratic and you and others should surely to hell know this and want to GTFO of this corrupt institution.