PM Boris forms a government - Page 113

Sephiroth · 02-09-2019, 18:56

Boris will do his duty towards our country. The "movement" to prevent no-deal is a dishonest sham to prevent Brexit as all the Remainers in this thread certainly know.

nomadking · 02-09-2019, 18:56

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Looks like the EU will, though. Mind you, that won't prevent Boris from retaining that deadline.

The EU said they wouldn't extend it again without good reason. What is meant to be that good reason?

Pierre · 02-09-2019, 19:12

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The EU said they wouldn't extend it again without good reason. What is meant to be that good reason?

Macron won’t be in favour of any extension.

1andrew1 · 02-09-2019, 19:23

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Macron won’t be in favour of any extension.

Agreed, that was his previous stance when he wanted to look strong against a background of rioting. He's got no problem with it now, apparently.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...l-mps-succeed/
https://inews.co.uk/news/eu-leaders-...-gordon-brown/

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Boris will do his duty towards our country. The "movement" to prevent no-deal is a dishonest sham to prevent Brexit as all the Remainers in this thread certainly know.

Disagree mate and I voted Remain. It's a broader church than you might hope.

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And he forgot to ruffle his hair before he came out.

Yes, that was the biggest revelation for those BoJo admirers who couldn't believe he did that.

**Hugh** · 02-09-2019, 19:48

I think BJ is finding that being PM isn’t the morsel of micturition he thought it was going to be - he may end up going into the record books, but only by beating George Canning’s record*...

*he’s got until November 19th this year

denphone · 02-09-2019, 19:56

He has got a honeymoon period though.

1andrew1 · 02-09-2019, 20:09

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He has got a honeymoon period though.

Something about a 7-week itch me thinks.

**Hugh** · 02-09-2019, 20:12

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Something about a 7-week itch me thinks.

Well, if anyone is going to have an itch, it’ll be BJ, given his "proclivities"...

Pierre · 02-09-2019, 21:35

https://www.facebook.com/79449209398...336112?sfns=mo

jfman · 02-09-2019, 21:52

The EU will always extend. Remember, us and Germany bankroll that perfidious establishment.

**Hugh** · 02-09-2019, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Pierre

https://www.facebook.com/79449209398...336112?sfns=mo

Let’s take advice from the Chief Economist of a bank whose share value has dropped 85% in the last 10 years, and expects prosecution for its part in a $20 billion money laundering scheme...

This is the man who said that "notwithstanding the current political crisis, the Russian economy is likely to improve in 1998. Recent indicators point towards faster growth in output and a pick-up in domestic demand as well as a decline in inflation to single digits". Within a few months, Russia dramatically devalued its currency, it defaulted on its debt and suffered inflation of 84%.

He also said in May 2008 that the international monetary system was well placed to withstand the sub-prime crisis, and that a pessimistic outcome was not credible.

So, if you don’t mind, I don’t find his predictions convincing...

**Damien** · 02-09-2019, 22:01

These appear to be the list of Tory MPs who'll no longer be Tory MPs (or members of the Tory party for that matter) come tomorrow as they plan to rebel:

Gauke
Stewart
Greening
Burt
Harrington
Sandbach
Grieve
Letwin

Could also include:

Lidington
Vaizey
Brine
Hammond
Clark
Clarke
Bebb
Soames
Lee
Gyimah
Milton

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/stat...25038712610816

I imagine their colleagues will go for it but I imagine there will be a lot of discontentment amongst the non-ERG members of the Tory party especially considering the ERG, include cabinet and Boris himself, voted against the Government when it came to May's deal. There are people there who voted for May's deal each and every time and this will be their first rebellion.

1andrew1 · 02-09-2019, 22:22

Desperate, unethical, canny or all of these?

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“Number 10 has been polling “culture war” issues, such as transgender rights, to see whether they can be weaponised against Labour in northern working-class constituencies” says the Times’ ⁦@RSylvesterTimes

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...87490934054914

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Let’s take advice from the Chief Economist of a bank whose share value has dropped 85% in the last 10 years, and expects prosecution for its part in a $20 billion money laundering scheme...

This is the man who said that "notwithstanding the current political crisis, the Russian economy is likely to improve in 1998. Recent indicators point towards faster growth in output and a pick-up in domestic demand as well as a decline in inflation to single digits". Within a few months, Russia dramatically devalued its currency, it defaulted on its debt and suffered inflation of 84%.

He also said in May 2008 that the international monetary system was well placed to withstand the sub-prime crisis, and that a pessimistic outcome was not credible.

So, if you don’t mind, I don’t find his predictions convincing...

Oops, that's the kind of person you want to be playing for the other team and not batting for you!

**Hugh** · 02-09-2019, 22:24

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According to Sky’s Beth Rigby, Boris Johnson won’t be announcing a general election tonight in his statement at 6pm.

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Originally Posted by Damien

Apparently he'll announce that if Parliament does anything on Wednesday then there will be an election October 14th.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Floating the date is meant to to reassure Corbyn that Boris won’t disssolve Parliament until November, I.e. after Brexit. 14 October is symbolic - it retains the same amount of time as the prorogation wold have allowed for Brexit debate prior to 31 October, and it underscores the sense of urgency by not being on a Thursday, as is almost always the case.

Point of order.

Boris Johnson cannot call a General Election/dissolve Parliament - not his decision. It requires (at least) one Commons vote, and needs 2/3rds of MPs approval.

btw, not sure of the logic process that seems to believe if a majority vote for the bill (which has now been published by Hilary Benn) which would force the PM to request a Brexit delay to 31 January 2020 unless MPs had approved a new deal, the same majority would then vote for a dissolution of Parliament/General Election which would cause a No Deal Brexit to happen...

1andrew1 · 02-09-2019, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Point of order.

Boris Johnson cannot call a General Election/dissolve Parliament - not his decision. It requires (at least) one Commons vote, and needs 2/3rds of MPs approval.

Is there enough Parliamentary time left?

I guess there would be sufficient Labour MPs up for an election to get the 2/3 approval would there?