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Old 23-06-2021, 18:08   #1501
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Re: Britain outside the EU

If no "border" is imposed (with no checks by U.K. on goods coming in from the EU (Ireland)), WTO Most Favored Nation rule means that the U.K. cannot have checks on goods coming from any country.

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This principle is known as most-favoured-nation (MFN) treatment (see box). It is so important that it is the first article of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which governs trade in goods.
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EU have informally approved the extension request

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Old 23-06-2021, 19:10   #1503
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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If no "border" is imposed (with no checks by U.K. on goods coming in from the EU (Ireland)), WTO Most Favored Nation rule means that the U.K. cannot have checks on goods coming from any country.
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Old 23-06-2021, 19:13   #1504
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Re: Britain outside the EU

all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?
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Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?
In the knacker's yard?
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Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?
In the same boat as the Budgie smugglers.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.
You've missed a few. Add peace in Ireland. Add peace in GB. Add the integrity of the GB single market. Add the integrity of the European single market.
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Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
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Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
I'll drink to that
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Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.
Should the UK just ignore the WTO?
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Should the UK just ignore the WTO?
… and sod that too. The territorial integrity of the UK and its internal market has nothing to do with the WTO.

As if you didn’t know.
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It does when there is a contiguous border with another country - ignoring it won’t make it go away.

If we want trade agreements with other countries, telling the WTO to "sod off" is a sub-optimal approach.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
No such market to sod.

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It does when there is a contiguous border with another country - ignoring it won’t make it go away.

If we want trade agreements with other countries, telling the WTO to "sod off" is a sub-optimal approach.
Yup, we're in the realms of fantasy politics if such approaches were ever taken!
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