U.S Election 2020 - Page 161

1andrew1 · 11-01-2021, 12:11

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Earth to planet Andrew. Pointless getting into a debate with you if that's your starting point.

That's my analysis of the evidence.

papa smurf · 11-01-2021, 12:16

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Eh? The Democrats ensured a smooth handover and attended Trump's inauguration.

The Democrats have not done everything they possibly could to remove a democratically elected president. Far from it. You only have to look at Trump's call for a march on Capitol Hill and phone calls to find votes to understand what everything possible looks like.

Yes, they've held Trump to account and impeached him but thy would be negligent not to have done so. That's a world apart from Trump's efforts.

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Playing the man and not the ball?

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Exactly. False equivalence.

stating a fact.

Mad Max · 11-01-2021, 12:16

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Playing the man and not the ball?

Did he say the same thing about the BLM rioters?

1andrew1 · 11-01-2021, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Did he say the same thing about the BLM rioters?

Why should Arnie criticise Trump for encouraging a march on Capitol Hill by the BLM when Trump didn't do such a thing. That would be daft.

papa smurf · 11-01-2021, 12:35

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Why should Arnie criticise Trump for encouraging a march on Capitol Hill by the BLM when Trump didn't do such a thing. That would be daft.

Playing the fool not the ball?

**Mick** · 11-01-2021, 12:42

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Originally Posted by Hugh

They introduced a false idea, spreading it by every available means (Fox, Twitter, etc.). Then, once people are talking about it, and some believe it, they cited its prevalence as evidence that it might be true - this is the trick by which the propaganda and lies they spread validates itself.

I don’t remember before Trump’s inauguration the losing Candidate refusing to accept the result, or gee-ing up her supporters to march on Congress?

No, she just and the DNC cooked up a fake Russian dossier to get Trump, after he was in office. You have a poor or selective memory Hugh.

Carth · 11-01-2021, 12:50

Sometimes American politicians excel themselves and make that Kim Jon Uggboots feller look honest

I find it quite amusing to be honest, and think Mothercare could make a fortune with some shops over there

Mr K · 11-01-2021, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Mick

No, she just and the DNC cooked up a fake Russian dossier to get Trump, after he was in office. You have a poor or selective memory Hugh.

Honest question Mick, do you actually believe any of this ? Where do you get your information from ? Please post links to your links/evidence from sites, as is customary in the current affairs forum. I'd be most interested to see your sources.

Strange how 'crooked' Hillary was never locked up, charged or arrested for anything. It's almost as if she was innocent except for maybe bad choice of spouse...

**Mick** · 11-01-2021, 12:57

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Eh? The Democrats ensured a smooth handover and attended Trump's inauguration.

The Democrats have not done everything they possibly could to remove a democratically elected president. Far from it. You only have to look at Trump's call for a march on Capitol Hill and phone calls to find votes to understand what everything possible looks like.

Yes, they've held Trump to account and impeached him but thy would be negligent not to have done so. That's a world apart from Trump's efforts.

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Playing the man and not the ball?

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Exactly. False equivalence.

I cannot believe you wrote this utter bullshit.

The DNC and Crooked Hillary, in 2016, paid for a fake Russian dossier, in the sole aim of sparking an FBI Investigation to get Trump after he has entered office, to get him out of office. They almost succeeded. You should not paint the Democrats in good light, because they are rotten to the core. They reap what they sow, they started this in 2016 by never accepting the Trump win. So wtf should we accept these Democrat scumbags now?

As I said much earlier on, I’m playing from their stinking rule book.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Honest question Mick, do you actually believe any of this ? Where do you get your information from ? Please post links to your evidence from sites as is customary in the current affairs forum. I'd be most interested to see your sources.

Strange how 'crooked' Hillary was never locked up, charged or arrested for anything. It's almost as if she was innocent except for maybe bad choice of spouse...

Yes I do believe it, because Senate Intelligence Committee released a long report detailing the crookedness of the DNC and Hillary, they paid for that fake Russian intelligence document.

1andrew1 · 11-01-2021, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Mick

I cannot believe you wrote this utter bullshit.

The DNC and Crooked Hillary, in 2016, paid for a fake Russian dossier, in the sole aim of sparking an FBI Investigation to get Trump after he has entered office, to get him out of office. They almost succeeded. You should not paint the Democrats in good light, because they are rotten to the core. They reap what they sow, they started this in 2016 by never accepting the Trump win. So wtf should we accept these Democrat scumbags now?

As I said much earlier on, I’m playing from their stinking rule book.

I'm not painting anyone in a good light, I'm stating the simple fact that the Democrats did not do all they could to win the 2016 election and your post does not speak to this point. Did the Democrats phone up asking for more votes to be found? No. Did they encourage their supporters to march on Capitol Hill? No. Did Hillary Clinton Tweet before and after the 2016 election that it was stolen from her? No.

**Mick** · 11-01-2021, 13:03

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm not painting anyone in a good light, I'm stating the simple fact that the Democrats did not do all they could to win the 2016 election and your post does not speak to this point. Did the Democrats phone up asking for more votes to be found? No. Did they encourage their supporters to march on Capitol Hill? No. Did Hillary Clinton Tweet before and after the 2016 election that it was stolen from her? No.

But instead her crookedness decided to try get Trump after he entered office...

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/us...ssier.amp.html

1andrew1 · 11-01-2021, 13:08

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Honest question Mick, do you actually believe any of this ? Where do you get your information from ? Please post links to your links/evidence from sites, as is customary in the current affairs forum. I'd be most interested to see your sources.

Strange how 'crooked' Hillary was never locked up, charged or arrested for anything. It's almost as if she was innocent except for maybe bad choice of spouse...

Certainly, questions have to be asked of Trump and WikiLeaks. Who apart from Trump supporters can forget the infamous Trump-Putin Helsinki press conference in 2018 at which Mr Trump sided with Mr Putin over his own intelligence community, denying Russia’s involvement in the WikiLeaks about Hillary Clinton?

jfman · 11-01-2021, 13:12

I'm curious as to how America steps back from this madness where such distrust exists between both sides. Since when in a democracy were people you simply disagreed with the enemy?

Let's be honest most political parties are elites and to some extent corporate shills. They might nudge the dial slightly left or slightly to the right. Tax might go up the odd penny here or there. Or come down. What the state should do, or not do, is the basis for democracy - when does that become framed as eroding freedom? In four years time (two in the House) people get to go to the ballot box and change the dynamics all over again if they disagee.

1andrew1 · 11-01-2021, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Mick

But instead her crookedness decided to try get Trump after he entered office...

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/us...ssier.amp.html

That report was indeed laughable! But it was paid for by a Republican donor who did not like Trump. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/u...elligence.html

**Mick** · 11-01-2021, 13:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Certainly, questions have to be asked of Trump and WikiLeaks. Who apart from Trump supporters can forget the infamous Trump-Putin Helsinki press conference in 2018 at which Mr Trump sided with Mr Putin over his own intelligence community, denying Russia’s involvement in the WikiLeaks about Hillary Clinton?

But not in this thread. This has been covered at the time in several Trump topics. Stop diluting the topic. [Yes this is an instruction].