25-09-2021, 16:57
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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There's a lot less choice and there are spaces on shelves whenever I've been shopping recently
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I'm sure if you ask nicely, someone will lend you their Brexray specs so the shelves all look full and the uplands sunny. 
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Sky News has published an explainer article which neatly summarises the causes and solutions being pursued.
Causes- Covid pandemic
- Brexit
- Retiring drivers
- Costs of training and pay
- Tax changes
- Working conditions
What is being done to fix the problem?- Temporary visas
- HGV driving tests relaxed
https://news.sky.com/story/supply-cr...m-get-12417317
Last edited by 1andrew1; 25-09-2021 at 17:01.
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25-09-2021, 17:25
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Causes- Covid pandemic
- Brexit
- Retiring drivers
- Costs of training and pay
- Tax changes
- Working conditions
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Add to that list: "Existing lorry drivers to have a medical at the age of 45 and then every five years until the age of 65. After 65, the medical has to be done every year. " Most are done with GP’s, but they haven't been doing them for almost 2 years, and are still not doing many.
Also: Driver training and testing hasn't happened much for many, many months.
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25-09-2021, 19:31
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
All this issue has proven is that the U.K. population on the whole, are totally malleable, easily led, compliant, and will believe anything the media says to them.
Green lights to the government to push any agenda they want through the MSM.
“Sheeple” never been more appropriate.
Expect a major push through COVID ( less likely now) and CLIMATE CHANGE ( highly likely) to curtail our freedoms…….and we’ll lap it up.
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25-09-2021, 19:47
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
It just shows that people are stupid. That is all it is. No agendas at all.
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25-09-2021, 20:35
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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It just shows that people are stupid. That is all it is. No agendas at all.
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It shows that people are indeed stupid, and open to those that have an agenda.
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25-09-2021, 20:45
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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It shows that people are indeed stupid, and open to those that have an agenda.
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Indeed, hence the direction this country is going.
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25-09-2021, 21:43
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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Originally Posted by Pierre
All this issue has proven is that the U.K. population on the whole, are totally malleable, easily led, compliant, and will believe anything the media says to them.
Green lights to the government to push any agenda they want through the MSM.
“Sheeple” never been more appropriate.
Expect a major push through COVID ( less likely now) and CLIMATE CHANGE ( highly likely) to curtail our freedoms…….and we’ll lap it up.
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Based on the last line of your comment, you should start stockpiling tinfoil.
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25-09-2021, 21:51
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
Nah, Climate Change is the biggy when Covid settles down, just a pity the experts are stupid and we're doing it all wrong 
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26-09-2021, 02:27
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
I passed several garages today, no queues at any of them.
Either everyone filled up yesterday, or they have run out.
I didnt see any signs to say they were out of fuel, so probably the first reason.
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26-09-2021, 02:28
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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Based on the last line of your comment, you should start stockpiling tinfoil.
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Nah, those of us "in the know" have our tinfoil hats ready and waiting. You are the one who needs to prepare.
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26-09-2021, 02:33
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Oddly enough, Ive found foil harder to come by in recent weeks 
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26-09-2021, 08:49
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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Then the freight would have to loaded and unloaded multiple times on the many sections of the rail network(try doing journeys as a rail passenger to understand),
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Rail freight doesn't need to change trains like us passengers, it has dedicated point-to-point trains.
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in addition to the road network to get to and from the rail depots.
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Agreed.
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26-09-2021, 09:38
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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EV car owners must be driving around pretty smug looking right now
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Yep
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26-09-2021, 15:37
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
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EV car owners must be driving around pretty smug looking right now
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They won't after the electricity prices go up, which they will do.
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26-09-2021, 18:33
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Re: Panic at the Pumps
BREAKING: Latest from FT: an estimated 50-85% of UK petrol stations (outside of the motorway network) have run out of fuel after Britons engaged in panic buying over the weekend
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