VOD : Linear is old tech - on demand is the future

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

And for the next 50 years plus...

Link?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Link?

MM has just posted a link contrary to your thinking and l have posted many before but alas its pretty hard to take some horses to water sometimes as they say.

[jfman]

So the future is standard definition and has adverts imposed upon us? Feels a bit 90s.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by denphone

And for the next 50 years plus...

You're at it.....

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

MM has just posted a link contrary to your thinking and l have posted many before but alas its pretty hard to take some horses to water sometimes as they say.

Den, you seem to have a problem separating the present from the future! What I have been saying all along is that traditional broadcast channels are likely to be much diminished and possibly gone altogether in about 15 years. The BBC is also working on that assumption.

There is no contradiction in what I have said with the article posted by muppetman!

[OLD BOY]

There goes another one. TV5 Monde on Sky and Virgin Media being abandoned in favour of on demand programming.

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/11/...to-online.html

It is not yet clear whether the on demand programming will still be available on Sky or Virgin Media, but it sounds as if we might only be able to access it via the internet.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

There goes another one. TV5 Monde on Sky and Virgin Media being abandoned in favour of on demand programming.

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/11/...to-online.html

Not surprised, I never even heard of it let alone watched it - so no big loss.

For the record, despite there being around 300 channels ( a guess - no time to count them' - I rarely watch anything other than from a selected 25-30 channels

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Not surprised, I never even heard of it let alone watched it - so no big loss.

For the record, despite there being around 300 channels ( a guess - no time to count them' - I rarely watch anything other than from a selected 25-30 channels

You are not alone, Raider. Pay TV offers very poor value for money, in my opinion.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You are not alone, Raider. Pay TV offers very poor value for money, in my opinion.

And yet you remain a customer of Virgin Media so that is certainly some contradiction given your love of everything streaming and your constant carping criticism of Pay TV.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

And yet you remain a customer of Virgin Media so that is certainly some contradiction given your love of everything streaming and your constant carping criticism of Pay TV.

No, Den, completely and utterly wrong. The fact that I am getting annoyed at the deteriorating quality of pay-tv doesn't mean that I am yet ready to stop my subscription. I still benefit from getting all my Netflix watch list collated together with my recorded programmes, and there are still programmes I watch on pay tv channels that are not available elsewhere except via pay per view.

But I used to be able to record three or four programmes a week from Sky One and more from Sky Two. Nowadays, hardly anything on those channels that interests me and I can't remember the last time I watched anything from Sky Two, which isn't even available in HD. But of course you need to subscribe to the Full House to get all the benefits of cable that I use, and so paying on a lower tier is not an option. I have to admit that I am paying a lot of money for very little.

One bright spot is the new Virgin Media UHD channel, which stands head and shoulders above any of the Sky fare, even though currently it only broadcasts for a few hours per night. I have been watching Start-Up, The Art of More and a number of the nature programmes. House of Cards I have already seen but is superb. Shut Eye looks good, too, although I have yet to start watching that. All of this content is available in UHD quality and there are no commercial breaks at all. Strangely, it is not yet available on demand, but I hope that is coming.

The Virgin Exclusives are also worth watching. Again, the quality of those I've seen to date is also very good.

So enough reasons to stick with conventional pay-tv at the moment, but the deterioration of programming on Sky is both disappointing and sad. Unfortunately, I can see the way this is all going.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, Den, completely and utterly wrong. The fact that I am getting annoyed at the deteriorating quality of pay-tv doesn't mean that I am yet ready to stop my subscription. I still benefit from getting all my Netflix watch list collated together with my recorded programmes, and there are still programmes I watch on pay tv channels that are not available elsewhere except via pay per view.

But I used to be able to record three or four programmes a week from Sky One and more from Sky Two. Nowadays, hardly anything on those channels that interests me and I can't remember the last time I watched anything from Sky Two, which isn't even available in HD. But of course you need to subscribe to the Full House to get all the benefits of cable that I use, and so paying on a lower tier is not an option. I have to admit that I am paying a lot of money for very little.

One bright spot is the new Virgin Media UHD channel, which stands head and shoulders above any of the Sky fare, even though currently it only broadcasts for a few hours per night. I have been watching Start-Up, The Art of More and a number of the nature programmes. House of Cards I have already seen but is superb. Shut Eye looks good, too, although I have yet to start watching that. All of this content is available in UHD quality and there are no commercial breaks at all. Strangely, it is not yet available on demand, but I hope that is coming.

The Virgin Exclusives are also worth watching. Again, the quality of those I've seen to date is also very good.

So enough reasons to stick with conventional pay-tv at the moment, but the deterioration of programming on Sky is both disappointing and sad. Unfortunately, I can see the way this is all going.

How can virgin's UHD channel be head and shoulders above any of the sky fare.


Excluding BT Sports rights, Sky have numerous Premier League games on UHD, virgin have none - unless I am missing something

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Raider999

How can virgin's UHD channel be head and shoulders above any of the sky fare.


Excluding BT Sports rights, Sky have numerous Premier League games on UHD, virgin have none - unless I am missing something

I don't think he was referring to the football, Raider.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, Den, completely and utterly wrong. The fact that I am getting annoyed at the deteriorating quality of pay-tv doesn't mean that I am yet ready to stop my subscription. I still benefit from getting all my Netflix watch list collated together with my recorded programmes, and there are still programmes I watch on pay tv channels that are not available elsewhere except via pay per view.

Always a man of contradictions that is for sure OB as l suspect you will be repeating this chapter and verse long into the future.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

But I used to be able to record three or four programmes a week from Sky One and more from Sky Two. Nowadays, hardly anything on those channels that interests me and I can't remember the last time I watched anything from Sky Two, which isn't even available in HD. But of course you need to subscribe to the Full House to get all the benefits of cable that I use, and so paying on a lower tier is not an option. I have to admit that I am paying a lot of money for very little.

If you had a company it would have gone bust by now.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

One bright spot is the new Virgin Media UHD channel, which stands head and shoulders above any of the Sky fare, even though currently it only broadcasts for a few hours per night. I have been watching Start-Up, The Art of More and a number of the nature programmes. House of Cards I have already seen but is superb. Shut Eye looks good, too, although I have yet to start watching that. All of this content is available in UHD quality and there are no commercial breaks at all. Strangely, it is not yet available on demand, but I hope that is coming.

The Virgin Exclusives are also worth watching. Again, the quality of those I've seen to date is also very good.

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Yes the new Virgin Media UHD channel is certainly a improvement in that area but there is still not enough content around to increase the hours that the channel is broadcasting for currently.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So enough reasons to stick with conventional pay-tv at the moment, but the deterioration of programming on Sky is both disappointing and sad. Unfortunately, I can see the way this is all going.

Your opinion but not mine..

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Raider999

How can virgin's UHD channel be head and shoulders above any of the sky fare.


Excluding BT Sports rights, Sky have numerous Premier League games on UHD, virgin have none - unless I am missing something

I was referring to the quality of content in terms of general entertainment. I was not referring to sports and films premium channels. Sorry, maybe I should have made that clearer!

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The demise of terrestrial TV broadcast over the airwaves is now gaining momentum on the Continent.

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/12/...v-ends-in.html

[OLD BOY]

Interesting report here, in which we have confirmation that the number of subscriptions to streaming services in the UK is now higher than for conventional pay TV.

https://www.bmmagazine.co.uk/opinion...-media-sector/

Extract:

According to OFCOM, there are now more TV subscriptions to Netflix, Amazon and Sky’s NOWTV than to traditional pay TV services in the UK: in the first quarter of 2018, UK subscriptions to the three largest online streaming services overtook pay TV subscriptions for the first time (15.4 million viewers versus 15.1 million). Meanwhile, annual revenue growth for online audio-visual services grew at a robust pace of 25% in 2017.