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Old 09-09-2018, 15:10   #1021
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Nobody has said that VM are unable to add it due to capacity constraints

VM are, as expected, now taking steps to get more out of their existing capacity e.g. by squeezing more channels into the same space.

I very much doubt it will be contractual as GOLD HD was offered right at the start of the initial negotiations.
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Old 09-09-2018, 15:15   #1022
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Nobody has said that VM are unable to add it due to capacity constraints

VM are, as expected, now taking steps to get more out of their existing capacity e.g. by squeezing more channels into the same space.

I very much doubt it will be contractual as GOLD HD was offered right at the start of the initial negotiations.
You don’t know the contracts that are in place with other providers - e.g an exclusivity premium or when they have been paid up to on that basis if it does exist.

The fact Virgin have introduced less popular HD channels in terms of rating, but Gold remains unavailable, points to other factors. Virgin could launch Gold HD tomorrow if it was the network that was the restriction.
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Old 09-09-2018, 17:25   #1023
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Gold HD launched on 2 October 2017 on Sky, so I was half expecting to have to wait until 2 October 2018 on Virgin Media, assuming a possible one year exclusivity deal, so mid September seems perfectly reasonable.
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Old 10-09-2018, 13:40   #1024
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Not until mid September.
With Virgin launching an brand new UHD Channel on September 17th we feel that GOLD HD will launch the week starting September 17th.
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A self prediction or a sourced one?
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A self prediction or a sourced one?
My own prediction. But UKTV has says Mid September in the past. Next week is mid September.

But we are maybe putting 2 + 2 together and making 5.
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Typical, isn't it? No sooner is the UKTV deal with Virgin settled, the whole future of these channels is suddenly up in the air!

Still, it could be that the channels will remain, with new ownership, and some content added to the new streaming service that the Beeb want to see put in place.

http://www.a516digital.com/2018/09/c...in-bid-to.html
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Typical, isn't it? No sooner is the UKTV deal with Virgin settled, the whole future of these channels is suddenly up in the air!

Still, it could be that the channels will remain, with new ownership, and some content added to the new streaming service that the Beeb want to see put in place.

http://www.a516digital.com/2018/09/c...in-bid-to.html
I absolutely will not pay any more on top of the licence to watch any BBC/ITV shows.
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Hopefully the restructure of UKTV will end the farce of licence fee payers shelling out again for content they funded previously. Not holding my breath though...
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Hopefully the restructure of UKTV will end the farce of licence fee payers shelling out again for content they funded previously. Not holding my breath though...
All the more reason to abolish the TV license.
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Hopefully the restructure of UKTV will end the farce of licence fee payers shelling out again for content they funded previously. Not holding my breath though...
I imagine that this is only true for older programming that the BBC own the rights to. The Government has for some time forced the BBC to use independent TV production companies, hence how Channel 4 were able to poach that popular baking programme from the BBC.
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I absolutely will not pay any more on top of the licence to watch any BBC/ITV shows.
They seem to want their cake and eat it or to put it another way a even bigger slice of the pie.
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I imagine that this is only true for older programming that the BBC own the rights to. The Government has for some time forced the BBC to use independent TV production companies, hence how Channel 4 were able to poach that popular baking programme from the BBC.
Back when the BBC made all its own programming, you would expect to see its drama output repeated a couple of times, as long as the show was still in production. Once a show went out of production the whole lot was liable to show up as a repeat for years afterwards.

What seems to have changed that is firstly, the arrival of affordable home VHS equipment, so the BBC could sell tapes of its content. It was then no longer in its interests to broadcast for free what it could sell at a premium (and the terms of its Royal Charter have never prevented it from doing this). Secondly, by the end of the 1980s as you say the BBC was obliged by charter to source a proportion of its content from other production companies. These are original commissions but the deals are structured so that the BBC doesn’t own the copyright. They are effectively a top tier production partner with exclusive first run rights. After that it’s the production company that gets the overseas and DVD sales, plus the right to resell the content to Dave or whoever.
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