Appeasement

[Sephiroth]

I’ve seen it all now: It is the second time that a Conservative government has sunk to appeasement.

The enemy was at the gate in 1938 and it is now at the gate again as evidenced by the Rochdale by-election.

What do those two idiots Hunt and Sunak think will be general public reaction to the construction of a memorial to the Muslim fallen of WW2? Why now – something to do with the 300,000 ‘Free Palestine’ mob that in their hearts support Hamas? Something to do with police appeasement when genocidal messages are beamed onto Big Ben? It’s beyond shameful.

[jfman]

Said it before, said it again.

The Tories are the biggest threat to British culture and British values, not immigrants. The destruction of communities the length and breadth of the country turning it all into an industrial barren wasteland. The things that brought working men together - trade unions crushed, working men’s clubs closing. Similarly for a Conservative Party this one is good at pushing the atheist agenda.

If a migrant will do your job for ten pence per hour less he will be waved on in, if a German company can make trains for a single digit percentage lower cost than they can be made here those jobs will go to Germany.

It’s like the moment at the end of the Usual Suspects when you find out the answer has been staring you in the face after all the misdirection.

[Sephiroth]

The topic is APPEASEMENT, John. Nothing to do with anything you've said.

The Muslim memorial announcement was the first item in his budget exposition. Apart from the £1m he will spaff on this peace of appeasement, it had nothing to do with the budget. It is is clumsy, an outrage and will not impress anyone, least of all the Muslim community.

[Stephen]

Everyone that fought for the UK during WWII deserves to be honoured and remembered. They gave their lives for this country and our freedom.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Everyone that fought for the UK during WWII deserves to be honoured and remembered. They gave their lives for this country and our freedom.

I don't quarrel with that. It is the timing of Hunt's announcement, disguised as a budget matter, that constitutes appeasement in the light of the Rochdale business and the weekly Hamas supporting demonstrations.

Don't you see it as appeasement?

It’s astonishing that you believe honouring those who fought and died for our country is "appeasement".

For context…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2507941.html

The World Wars Muslim Memorial Trust registered in 2016 and seeks to honour those Muslim soldiers from the Indian subcontinent, the Middle East and North Africa who were involved in the two global conflicts.

It would also honour Muslim personnel from the UK who have died in combat in recent times.

It would be added to the many already at the National Memorial Arboretum.

https://www.thenma.org.uk/visit-us/w...t-of-memorials

[jonbxx]

The World Wars Muslim Memorial Trust have been working on this for a number of years so well done to them.

The chair of the trust, Sir William Blackburn said;

Our project coincides with the widespread re-evaluation of colonial history and the role Muslims play in a dynamic and changing modern Britain. We want to emphasise shared sacrifices, a common history and values, and an inclusive programme of education for everyone in the UK – Muslims and non-Muslims alike. The memorial will be a physical reminder of how people of all faiths make an impact working together and can continue to do so despite the challenges of those who attempt to divide our society

[Pierre]

Do the victims of:

- 7/7
- 2017 London Bridge
- 2017 Manchester arena bomb

- to name a few, get a memorial.

Do Lee Rigby & David Ames get a memorial?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Everyone that fought for the UK during WWII deserves to be honoured and remembered. They gave their lives for this country and our freedom.

Exactly and anybody who thinks otherwise needs to have a good look at themselves.

[Mr K]

Think its the OP that wants 'appeasement', by not recognising some of those that have died for his/her freedom.

[Saul's Grandad]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Do the victims of:

- 7/7
- 2017 London Bridge
- 2017 Manchester arena bomb

- to name a few, get a memorial.

Do Lee Rigby & David Ames get a memorial?

Actually there are memorials of one sort or another for all those victims, so yes -
https://southwarknews.co.uk/area/sou...terror-attack/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_Memorial
https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/ne...rigby_memorial
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-67198520
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gl...0%20May%202022.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Do the victims of:

- 7/7
- 2017 London Bridge
- 2017 Manchester arena bomb

- to name a few, get a memorial.

Do Lee Rigby & David Ames get a memorial?

Not at the National Memorial Arboretum, which is to honour those who have fallen defending the U.K. in wars and other areas, but as stated above, they do have other memorials, and Lee Rigby’s name was added to a memorial stone at the NMA in September 2015, and there is a memorial for dedicated to British victims of overseas terrorism there.

https://www.thenma.org.uk/visit-us/w...for-a-memorial

Our Memorials

Memorials that currently feature at the Arboretum include those to:

- Her Majesty’s Armed Forces by service type, regiment, association or profession
- Those who served in specific campaigns or locations since the beginning of the 20th Century
- Our emergency services
- Civilian services, organisations, charities, fraternity/ sorority groups who have served/ serve the nation
- Military and Civilian organisations from across the Commonwealth who have served and sacrificed for the United Kingdom
- Others specifically recognised for their service or sacrifice

[1andrew1]

Appeasement was what the UK did by signing the Munich Agreement which only encouraged Hitler to expand his territorial ambitions.

Honouring soldiers who fought for the UK in World War II is not appeasement.

[mrmistoffelees]

What a <alcoholic drink> fuelled car crash of a thread this is

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It’s astonishing that you believe honouring those who fought and died for our country is "appeasement".

For context…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2507941.html



It would be added to the many already at the National Memorial Arboretum.

https://www.thenma.org.uk/visit-us/w...t-of-memorials

It's the timing of the announcement that make it appeasement in the light of current goings on.

Of course, you see this but just like to be contrary.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Appeasement was what the UK did by signing the Munich Agreement which only encouraged Hitler to expand his territorial ambitions.

Honouring soldiers who fought for the UK in World War II is not appeasement.

Again, it's the timing, and the tail wagging the dog that makes it appeasement. I warn you, your descendants will end up facing East eventually.

---------- Post added at 13:03 ---------- Previous post was at 13:02 ----------

Originally Posted by Saul's Grandad

Actually there are memorials of one sort or another for all those victims, so yes -
https://southwarknews.co.uk/area/sou...terror-attack/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_Memorial
https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/ne...rigby_memorial
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-67198520
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gl...0%20May%202022.

... but not announced as the introduction to the national budget and not in the current political circumstances.