Deportation of illegal migrants
13-06-2022, 17:35
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Deportation of illegal migrants
The Court of Appeal has upheld the High Court's decision not to stop the Government's intended deportation of various illegal migrants.
https://www.gbnews.uk/news/court-of-...-flight/316494
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Court of Appeal judges have rejected a last-ditch legal bid to block a flight due to relocate asylum seekers to Rwanda on Tuesday.
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13-06-2022, 18:00
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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Asylum seekers not illegal migrants. Seems that hardly any will actually go anyway due to various appeals. Going to be a very expensive plane. Still, all red meat headlines for those that like that sort of thing.
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13-06-2022, 18:05
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
11 people on the first flight apparently out of 140 issued with the notice of deportation... expected to go down even further. seems like a great use of money ?
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13-06-2022, 18:24
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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11 people on the first flight apparently out of 140 issued with the notice of deportation... expected to go down even further. seems like a great use of money ?
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It's down to 8 now including a victim of torture. Aren't we a lovely country? Prince Charley was right.
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13-06-2022, 18:29
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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Asylum seekers not illegal migrants. Seems that hardly any will actually go anyway due to various appeals. Going to be a very expensive plane. Still, all red meat headlines for those that like that sort of thing.
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Of course they are illegal migrants when they chuck their phones overboard and destroy their documents. They are economic migrants who are gaming the system.
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13-06-2022, 19:03
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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Of course they are illegal migrants when they chuck their phones overboard and destroy their documents. They are economic migrants who are gaming the system.
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You don't know that's true of all Asylum seekers. Doubtless there are some 'economic migrants' tbh honest we need them as not enough of our own population are prepared to do the crap jobs for the min. wage.
There are genuine victims of torture and war zones. This country has a proud history of being a refuge. A civilised nice place. Not any longer, what's changed? The Union Jack gets paler and less respected by the day.
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13-06-2022, 19:12
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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You don't know that's true of all Asylum seekers. Doubtless there are some 'economic migrants' tbh honest we need them as not enough of our own population are prepared to do the crap jobs for the min. wage.
There are genuine victims of torture and war zones. This country has a proud history of being a refuge. A civilised nice place. Not any longer, what's changed? The Union Jack gets paler and less respected by the day.
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I put it to you that such victims will have their documents with them unless they have been previously stolen.
Besides which, what's wrong with these people seeking asylum in your darling EU?
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13-06-2022, 19:29
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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I put it to you that such victims will have their documents with them unless they have been previously stolen.
Besides which, what's wrong with these people seeking asylum in your darling EU?
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Nothing, over half a million asylum seekers in th EU last year over 10 times our numbers. Germany alone took over 4 times what we have. It's a horrible World out there, we don't have to be horrible too.
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13-06-2022, 19:32
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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You don't know that's true of all Asylum seekers. Doubtless there are some 'economic migrants' tbh honest we need them as not enough of our own population are prepared to do the crap jobs for the min. wage.
There are genuine victims of torture and war zones. This country has a proud history of being a refuge. A civilised nice place. Not any longer, what's changed? The Union Jack gets paler and less respected by the day.
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Very few, if any, keep their documents etc. Otherwise we would know exactly where to send them back to. They keep them until the last stage of their journey into the UK. EG If they fly in, they have them getting onto the plane, but are missing once they reach the UK.
How are France and all the many other countries they've passed through war zones?
Even when they are settled in safe countries, complete with a home, job etc, they still insist on invading the West.
They have travelled long distances, often hundreds of miles, through the country they are meant to be fleeing, and they do that completely safely.
Then you have the classic of safely travelling all the way through another country which others are claiming asylum from that "unsafe" country. Eg people travel through "unsafe" Libya, but people from Libya flee saying it's unsafe. People travel through the likes of Guatemala and Mexico, yet people from those countries claim those countries are unsafe.
Border Control bend over backwards in order to let them in. EG Somebody gets off a plane, and suddenly doesn't have any papers, but is informed that if they claim to be a child, they have to be let in. Guess what happened? They were let in, put into care, of course skipped from there. Eg "So you've come from Brazil to join your brother who's already here illegally. OK then, you're in".
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13-06-2022, 19:34
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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Nothing, over half a million asylum seekers in the EU last year over 10 times our numbers. Germany alone took over 4 times what we have. It's a horrible World out there.
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That doesn't negate the argument against taking in these migrants. Perfectly fit men, is whom I mean, whose bona fides are unknown and thus their security risk to our trusting people.
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13-06-2022, 20:24
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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That doesn't negate the argument against taking in these migrants. Perfectly fit men, is whom I mean, whose bona fides are unknown and thus their security risk to our trusting people.
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Either you've been on the pop, or are suffering a bout of xenophobia. Don't worry I'm sure John Redwood will build you a wall round Wokingham, you can wave your little England flag. As long as Waitrose is included (staffed by those pesky immigrants), I'm sure you'll be fine....
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13-06-2022, 21:02
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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I put it to you that such victims will have their documents with them unless they have been previously stolen.
Besides which, what's wrong with these people seeking asylum in your darling EU?
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Because there’s no requirement for them to seek asylum in the first safe country
https://fullfact.org/immigration/ref...-safe-country/
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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That's the pity of it. It is an economic migrant's charter.
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13-06-2022, 21:43
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
Quite simply, you can't claim you're truly fleeing danger, if you go from a safe place to an unsafe one. Eg safe in France, unsafe crossing the channel.
You can't claim a country is unsafe, when you leave half of your family behind to face the "danger".
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14-06-2022, 08:50
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Re: Deportation of illegal migrants
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Besides which, what's wrong with these people seeking asylum in your darling EU?
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What's wrong with returning these people back to the EU country they were last in? Brexit.
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