31-05-2018, 19:07
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
Well yes - its connected - but is respect on BBC iPlayer it is not the BBC connected service. In fact there isn't really a BBC iPlayer, it is just a BBC section for downloading,
The Planet Earth UHD was a download - but it had no signalling to enable HDR or HLG.
To stream live HLG for the World Cup on iPlayer requires two big steps.
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Sky Q is a connected box it just doesn't have the version of iPlayer that smart TV's have , it uses progressive download as opposed to streaming.
Other apps on Sky Q use streaming such as YouTube , Vevo , Red Bull TV and the forthcoming Netflix service as well as the sidebar apps.
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31-05-2018, 19:14
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#452
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Sky Q is a connected box it just doesn't have the version of iPlayer that smart TV's have , it uses progressive download as opposed to streaming.
Other apps on Sky Q use streaming such as YouTube , Vevo , Red Bull TV and the forthcoming Netflix service as well as the sidebar apps.
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That's a great shame in my opinion. Sky Q customers are disadvantaged by this. Hopefully, Sky will relent and rectify this soon - it surely camnot be difficult to achieve this.
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31-05-2018, 19:15
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
That's a great shame in my opinion. Sky Q customers are disadvantaged by this. Hopefully, Sky will relent and rectify this soon - it surely camnot be difficult to achieve this.
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I'm sorry but how are they disadvantaged ?
I get all the same content you do , if its a boxset subsequent episodes are queued up and ready.
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31-05-2018, 19:24
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
I'm sorry but how are they disadvantaged ?
I get all the same content you do , if its a boxset subsequent episodes are queued up and ready.
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They are disadvantaged because they still have to download content and cannot access the streaming service. That's all I meant.
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31-05-2018, 19:28
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
It's the same content though , maybe it's just me but deleting something doesn't seem that taxing neither does waiting the 5-10 seconds or so for it to become available to view. I've also had some shows downloaded that have allowed me to watch when the shows availability has left the streaming version of iPlayer.
I have the online version of IPlayer available on my TV and numerous devices but still prefer to use the Q box.
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31-05-2018, 19:33
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
It's the same content though , maybe it's just me but deleting something doesn't seem that taxing neither does waiting the 5-10 seconds or so for it to become available to view. I've also had some shows downloaded that have allowed me to watch when the shows availability has left the streaming version of iPlayer.
I have the online version of IPlayer available on my TV and numerous devices but still prefer to use the Q box.
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Yes, I am sure that this does not concern some subscribers at all, but personally, I would find that annoying.
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31-05-2018, 19:49
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
I have to delete recordings I've made so no difference really , as I say purely personal preference but I like all my catch up being under one menu system and without the need to open apps up.
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31-05-2018, 19:50
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
Each to their own l say....
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31-05-2018, 19:51
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Each to their own l say....
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Completely agree Den the beauty of choice , no one system suits all both have pros and cons.
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31-05-2018, 20:06
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
They are disadvantaged because they still have to download content and cannot access the streaming service. That's all I meant.
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I think that is an advantage not a disadvantage.
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31-05-2018, 20:23
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
Streaming services tend to 'buffer', downloads don't.
If everyone is trying to stream this UHD at the same time, there might be issues. Stick with Freeview, it's usually 10 seconds ahead of Sky/VM anyway.
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31-05-2018, 23:13
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Streaming services tend to 'buffer', downloads don't.
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That’s true on the TiVo. I found the I-Player to be virtually impossible to watch on that. No such problem on the V6 and my 200MB broadband.
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01-06-2018, 05:20
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
How can you watch live football if the match is not available to stream but is on a download?
For old programmes downloads are likely to be better but are not available instantly - but some on SkyQ find the programme can take a long time to be viewable. It will not let you watch it until it is sure it can download the whole programme before you catch up with its 'reached so far' point in the download.
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Originally Posted by Raider999
I think that is an advantage not a disadvantage.
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Last edited by ozsat; 01-06-2018 at 05:25.
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01-06-2018, 08:10
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by ozsat
How can you watch live football if the match is not available to stream but is on a download?
For old programmes downloads are likely to be better but are not available instantly - but some on SkyQ find the programme can take a long time to be viewable. It will not let you watch it until it is sure it can download the whole programme before you catch up with its 'reached so far' point in the download.
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Over the past month I have downloaded a large number of programmes - without fail they have been viewable within a short period of time (a minute or 2)
Have I been lucky then?
Or maybe those having that problem have a low broadband speed - you normally get what you pay for!
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01-06-2018, 08:12
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by Raider999
I think that is an advantage not a disadvantage.
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Strange comment, but as long as you're happy.....
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