UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
17-10-2019, 16:17
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
Interesting take on this from NF
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17-10-2019, 16:20
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Interesting take on this from NF
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Not sure where he coming from with that.
The Benn Act is UK act, the EU has no obligation whatsoever to entertain it.
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17-10-2019, 16:59
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Better for who, struggle to see them being "onside" if it were genuinely in our interests
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17-10-2019, 17:09
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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NEW: Hearing from sources second referendum amendment on Saturday is now unlikely. Focus on defeating Johnson deal > in reality need Labour backing to get it passed and Corbyn ain’t there
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17-10-2019, 17:13
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Better for who, struggle to see them being "onside" if it were genuinely in our interests
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It’s in their interests. No matter what the Remainers and our Remain Parliament would like, Brexit will happen, eventually. So why prolong the agony.
Lance the boil and move forward.
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NEW: Hearing from sources second referendum amendment on Saturday is now unlikely. Focus on defeating Johnson deal > in reality need Labour backing to get it passed and Corbyn ain’t there
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Would be pant wettingly hilarious, if they voted against the deal and the EU kept firm on no extension. They would have to vote for it or no deal.
No doubt this is what Boris will be reinforcing with EU27. Hold firm, the deal will have to be passed and we can all move on.
Negotiations on the new trade deal begin on Nov 1st.
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17-10-2019, 17:42
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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It’s in their interests. No matter what the Remainers and our Remain Parliament would like, Brexit will happen, eventually. So why prolong the agony.
Lance the boil and move forward.
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Would be pant wettingly hilarious, if they voted against the deal and the EU kept firm on no extension. They would have to vote for it or no deal.
No doubt this is what Boris will be reinforcing with EU27. Hold firm, the deal will have to be passed and we can all move on.
Negotiations on the new trade deal begin on Nov 1st.
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Isn't there a rule against voting for the same deal more than once ? and if so
saturday is the last chance saloon.
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17-10-2019, 17:45
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
May's deal was presented 3 times, but Boris could just as easily not present it again and no deal is the result in no extension granted.
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17-10-2019, 17:53
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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May's deal was presented 3 times, but Boris could just as easily not present it again and no deal is the result in no extension granted.
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Yes but didn't berclod drag up some guff from the stone age that prohibited it being presented more than once?
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17-10-2019, 18:18
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Yes but didn't berclod drag up some guff from the stone age that prohibited it being presented more than once?
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Wasn@t it to stop it being presented for the 4th time?
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17-10-2019, 18:24
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Wasn@t it to stop it being presented for the 4th time?
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Indeed it was but i thought the ruling was that no bill if defeated can be presented in the same form in future sittings of the house.
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17-10-2019, 19:06
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Wasn@t it to stop it being presented for the 4th time?
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We are in a new session. That rule wouldn't apply.
Edit: as papa said
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17-10-2019, 19:07
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
Anyone else think Nige is sulking somewhat today? He's now moaning that the EU is not permitting an extension*.
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So an unelected, retiring bureaucrat says: No extension, take this new treaty or just leave.
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https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/sta...34973662175234
* I don't think this is quite what the EU said.
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17-10-2019, 19:14
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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We are in a new session. That rule wouldn't apply.
Edit: as papa said
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So, in one session May peresented an agreement to be passed 3 times.
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17-10-2019, 19:29
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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So, in one session May peresented an agreement to be passed 3 times.
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Quoting from the guide to parliamentary procedure, Erskine May, Bercow said by convention, the question “may not be brought forward again during the same session” and that it was a “strong and longstanding convention” dating back to 1604.
He said the convention had been confirmed again many times, including in 1864, 1870, 1882, 1891 and 1912. “Indeed, Erskine May makes reference to no fewer than 12 such rulings up to the year 1920,” he said.
“One of the reasons the rule has lasted so long is that it is a necessary rule to ensure the sensible use of the house’s time and the proper respect for the decisions it takes.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-on-same-deal
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17-10-2019, 19:31
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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So, in one session May peresented an agreement to be passed 3 times.
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That relied on a liberal interpretation of the rules. Johnson could present the same deal (he won't) without issue.
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