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SnoopZ · 19-12-2020, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Chris

You've got to feel sorry for everyone who made Christmas plans in good faith though, and thought they'd be traveling to stay away from home with family (or receiving family). There are now freezers up and down the land with a turkey that's way too large, and others who have no Christmas dinner in the house at all because they thought they wouldn't need one. The supermarkets are going to be absolute pandemonium this week.

Yer, my Christmas plans are now travel to Wales early Christmas Day and travel back to Cambridge in the evening, can't risk breaking the rules when i have to travel so far, so many cameras about!

This could all go tits up though if my area enters Tier 4 before then.

denphone · 19-12-2020, 18:34

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I do, I suspect however that the vast majority of people will say ‘screw you’

Thankfully we did not make any plans to start with as hopefully when it gets toward the warmer weather next year we will see the rest of our family more then.

Mr K · 19-12-2020, 18:35

Boris Johnson July 2020

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"It’ll be all over in time for Christmas”.

Maybe he should do 'thinking' before opening his stupid fat gob again.

Julian · 19-12-2020, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Boris Johnson July 2020

Maybe he should do 'thinking' before opening his stupid fat gob again.

Irony alert!!!!!!!

Mr K · 19-12-2020, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Julian

Irony alert!!!!!!!

I'm not fat

Boris is incredibly thick and slow though, no denying that.

denphone · 19-12-2020, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Julian

Irony alert!!!!!!!

Well Boris Johnson did say it would be a wonderful year...

**Hugh** · 19-12-2020, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Boris Johnson July 2020

Maybe he should do 'thinking' before opening his stupid fat gob again.

I feel sorry for BoJo - the evidence put before him must have been overwhelming, because there is no way he wanted to put London into lockdown or cancel 4 out of the 5 days of Christmas break previously announced.

On a related note, interesting article in the BMJ about the variant.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4857

Mr K · 19-12-2020, 18:52

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Originally Posted by Hugh

I feel sorry for BoJo - the evidence put before him must have been overwhelming, because there is no way he wanted to put London into lockdown or cancel 4 out of the 5 days of Christmas break previously announced.

If he had acted sooner then it night not have been necessary. Too slow to act at every stage of this pandemic, denying the science until he can't ignore it. His inaction has resulted in the highest number of deaths in Europe.

**Chris** · 19-12-2020, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Mr K

If he had acted sooner then it night not have been necessary. Too slow to act at every stage of this pandemic, denying the science until he can't ignore it. His inaction has resulted in the highest number of deaths in Europe.

I assume you therefore lay exactly the same charge at the doors of Mark Drakeford in Wales and Nicola Sturgeon in Scotland, as there’s barely a fag paper’s difference between the decisions they’ve taken and the statistics in each nation.

Mad Max · 19-12-2020, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Mr K

If he had acted sooner then it night not have been necessary. Too slow to act at every stage of this pandemic, denying the science until he can't ignore it. His inaction has resulted in the highest number of deaths in Europe.

You could say that about the number of people who broke the rules too, house parties anyone?

**Mick** · 19-12-2020, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Mr K

If he had acted sooner then it night not have been necessary. Too slow to act at every stage of this pandemic, denying the science until he can't ignore it. His inaction has resulted in the highest number of deaths in Europe.

Italy has reclaimed the highest death toll in Europe to Covid-19, albeit only just and their population is a lot less than ours.

**Damien** · 19-12-2020, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Chris

I assume you therefore lay exactly the same charge at the doors of Mark Drakeford in Wales and Nicola Sturgeon in Scotland, as there’s barely a fag paper’s difference between the decisions they’ve taken and the statistics in each nation.

I mean I would in this case.

I have sympathy with how difficult these decisions are but we seem to constantly be a week or so out from when they need to be taken. Lockdown 1, Lockdown 2 'Circut Breaker' and Lockdown 3 'Cancel Christmas'.

The decision today was being loudly advocated for since the start of the week. Nothing much has changed. Why wait this long?

I think people will be angrier at the late notice, just 3 days after saying they can't cancel it.

jfman · 19-12-2020, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Chris

I assume you therefore lay exactly the same charge at the doors of Mark Drakeford in Wales and Nicola Sturgeon in Scotland, as there’s barely a fag paper’s difference between the decisions they’ve taken and the statistics in each nation.

The situation in Scotland seems slightly more ridiculous with “schools at all costs” forcing some LAs (not all, and to a varying degree) to keep schools in up to 23rd before three households mixing is permitted on 25th.

Yet now there will be an additional week off with online learning for a further week. Other than for key workers pupils will not return to 18th January.

Being proactive before Christmas would have driven the numbers down prior to the risks of the 25th. With most schools not returning until at least 10 days later in any case.

1andrew1 · 19-12-2020, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Damien

I mean I would in this case.

I have sympathy with how difficult these decisions are but we seem to constantly be a week or so out from when they need to be taken. Lockdown 1, Lockdown 2 'Circut Breaker' and Lockdown 3 'Cancel Christmas'.

The decision today was being loudly advocated for since the start of the week. Nothing much has changed. Why wait this long?

I think people will be angrier at the late notice, just 3 days after saying they can't cancel it.

Agreed. The accusation of tardiness has weight to it.

Mad Max · 19-12-2020, 19:40

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Originally Posted by jfman

The situation in Scotland seems slightly more ridiculous with “schools at all costs” forcing some LAs (not all, and to a varying degree) to keep schools in up to 23rd before three households mixing is permitted on 25th.

Yet now there will be an additional week off with online learning for a further week. Other than for key workers pupils will not return to 18th January.

Being proactive before Christmas would have driven the numbers down prior to the risks of the 25th. With most schools not returning until at least 10 days later in any case.

Totally agree with that, utter madness to keep them open till the 23rd.