General Is piracy on the way out and will VM and Sky benefit? - Page 3

Skie · 08-12-2018, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Paul M

Speaking from personal experience of my Family & Friends, the cost of one service (such as Netflix) is not the issue.

The problem is that to be able to watch everything you actually want to see, you need Netflix, Prime, Sky and some US ones we cannot even access in the UK.

If you only needed to pay for one source, you would eliminate a lot of illegal sharing.

Exactamundo. Netflix helped reduce piracy because it was the one service you needed to mostly cover all your viewing needs. Now that everyone and their dog are pulling things from Netflix and setting up their own exclusive streaming service, it's turning into a mess of providers and there isnt a hope in hell people will subscribe to many of them. Piracy will increase again, and its the fault of the big corporations just mindlessly making a land-grab for more profits.

Hom3r · 09-12-2018, 14:10

Piracy will never go away

denphone · 09-12-2018, 14:22

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Piracy will never go away

Most certainly not until the prices come down on the content people want.

pip08456 · 09-12-2018, 14:47

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Originally Posted by denphone

Most certainly not until the prices come down on the content people want.

As if that will ever happen!

Gavin78 · 09-12-2018, 17:08

You mean like bluestacks with showbox.

That went down the other day as well. I agree though piracy is always going to be about especially when you have VM packages in the range of £74 a month and that doesn't even cover the things like Netflix/Amazon

I would like to see a service where I can view the latest cinema release from home without having to take a trip to the cinema when I can't be bothered

Stuart · 10-12-2018, 11:39

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Originally Posted by denphone

Most certainly not until the prices come down on the content people want.

I actually believe the price is (in some cases) irrelevant, because there are those who want everything for free.

Piracy won't go away, and I think to some extent, Hollywood actually needs it. It can generate publicity for shows and films that would otherwise have nothing. Game of Thrones for instance. That was a relatively small, very expensive show at the start, then really took off when season one became the most pirated show ever.

But, I am digressing. I think Piracy is probably being reduced, although mainly by services such as Netflix, Prime Video and all the various subscription music services. I suspect even those selling dodgy TV boxes and sticks will ultimately suffer because these services are starting to offer a lot of the content offered by those boxes for a lot less money, and legally. Of course, they won't replace everything, such as sports, but I think they will help.

Hom3r · 10-12-2018, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Piracy will never go away

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Originally Posted by denphone

Most certainly not until the prices come down on the content people want.

You could give it away and people would download illegally, its human nature.

OLD BOY · 11-12-2018, 13:50

The net prepares to start closing in.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018...cy-watch-list/

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

You could give it away and people would download illegally, its human nature.

Not if the fines imposed ensured that it was not worthwhile to do so. With better detection and enforcement, things could change quite quickly. At present, viewers of pirated material think they can access whatever they want with impunity. That's why so many people do it.

techguyone · 11-12-2018, 14:02

The net only closes in those jurisdictions where it is illegal, the Internet is global, and TPB hate that.

The only sane thing the authorities could do to make a dent in it, would be to ban private VPN usage, and restrict it to Business use only.

But you know what? someone would find a new way to circumnavigate that, as I said it's all just cat and mouse, somedays the cat wins, mostly the mouse, you DID watch Tom & Jerry as a child right?

**Paul** · 11-12-2018, 14:14

They seem a lot more concerned about illegal streaming these days, rather than torrents.

OLD BOY · 11-12-2018, 14:21

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Originally Posted by techguyone

The net only closes in those jurisdictions where it is illegal, the Internet is global, and TPB hate that.

The only sane thing the authorities could do to make a dent in it, would be to ban private VPN usage, and restrict it to Business use only.

But you know what? someone would find a new way to circumnavigate that, as I said it's all just cat and mouse, somedays the cat wins, mostly the mouse, you DID watch Tom & Jerry as a child right?

They won't ban VPN useage. However the GDPR legislation does show that countries can impose laws which can impact on people abroad.

I think something will happen along these lines in the future, although I don't know how far off that is yet. However, even with the present situation, if US companies providing or distributing content were able to track you down one way or another, the US, presumably, could request extradition to make you face the consequences of your actions through the US courts. I know some will argue that you are safe with a good VPN, but you know what, I am not convinced. I simply wouldn't risk it, and I don't believe that the police won't be able to track you down if they raided the companies providing these services, inspected the records that they lead you to believe they don't keep and used technical devices to track down illegal streaming.

I am concerned that such a bombshell could suddenly land without warning and ensnare UK offenders before they had a chance to mend their ways with a pre-warning. I do think everyone should be very careful now, this situation won't be allowed to continue. There is too much money being lost.

lightmyfire · 11-12-2018, 14:46

It made me chuckle when one of the bigger VPN suppliers started advertising their product on national TV.

Of course no one who acquires a VPN service has any intention of streaming the latest videos from some Kodi streaming service or bypassing the UK's ISP's ban on Piratebay.

Stuart · 11-12-2018, 16:32

I think it's a case of what gets the most bang for your buck.

It's going to cost a certain amount to catch each torrenter, then there will be costs involved in retrieving any money (including court, possibly). That would get a few downloaders.

If you catch the owner of a illegal streaming service, it's probably going to cost around the same as a torrenter, but would stop dozens, potentially hundreds, if not thousands of people viewing the content illegally.

pip08456 · 11-12-2018, 17:31

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The net prepares to start closing in.

How naive of you. That is not a crack down on piracy as such but those who make money from it.

That I agree with.

No one who is actually part of piracy does it to make money. We do it freely and detest those who charge.

OLD BOY · 11-12-2018, 18:00

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Originally Posted by pip08456

How naive of you. That is not a crack down on piracy as such but those who make money from it.

That I agree with.

No one who is actually part of piracy does it to make money. We do it freely and detest those who charge.

Yes, I know, pip. It is very clear that they are concentrating on suppliers at the moment. All I am saying is that I doubt that it will stop there.

I mean, when you think of how much money Sky is losing through pirated Premiereship football streams, why wouldn't they go after those who have viewed matches for free if they had a means to do so?