Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
02-02-2021, 14:33
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
Considering that;
- The levels of self harm and suicide are ridiculously high in cases of gender dysphoria (gender not matching assigned sex) link link
- Gender identity disclosure and reassignment reduces these risks (link)
Why would you not want to accept other genders exist? I can't see any harm in this at all and, based on the evidence available, to not do this actually causes harm
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02-02-2021, 14:42
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
Considering that;
- The levels of self harm and suicide are ridiculously high in cases of gender dysphoria (gender not matching assigned sex) link link
- Gender identity disclosure and reassignment reduces these risks (link)
Why would you not want to accept other genders exist? I can't see any harm in this at all and, based on the evidence available, to not do this actually causes harm
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The gender dysphoric are usually people who want to change to the opposite gender, they aren't usually for creating new ones.
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02-02-2021, 15:32
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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The gender dysphoric are usually people who want to change to the opposite gender, they aren't usually for creating new ones.
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The NHS defines Gender Dysphoria as;
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..a term that describes a sense of unease that a person may have because of a mismatch between their biological sex and their gender identity.
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The 'identity' was key for me, it doesn't say opposite sex
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02-02-2021, 15:34
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
Considering that;
- The levels of self harm and suicide are ridiculously high in cases of gender dysphoria (gender not matching assigned sex) link link
- Gender identity disclosure and reassignment reduces these risks (link)
Why would you not want to accept other genders exist? I can't see any harm in this at all and, based on the evidence available, to not do this actually causes harm
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But what are the other genders and/or identities?
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02-02-2021, 15:46
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
The more identities/genders are devised, the more incomprehensible it becomes. Kids can't be taught this. What they are taught in order to accord respect and opportunity for affected persons needs to be simplified.
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02-02-2021, 16:02
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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The more identities/genders are devised, the more incomprehensible it becomes. Kids can't be taught this. What they are taught in order to accord respect and opportunity for affected persons needs to be simplified.
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Spot on, Seph, and what they are taught should be something worthwhile and not this bloody nonsense.
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02-02-2021, 16:11
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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So lets break it down then:
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Agender
Not having a gender or identifying with a gender. They may describe themselves as being gender neutral or genderless.
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So you're nothing then? which also the same as
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Genderqueer
A gender identity label often used by people who do not identify with being a man or a woman, or as an umbrella term for many gender non-conforming or non-binary identities.
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the same as Agender above, so again just another way of saying the same thing.
whereas
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Bigender
A person who fluctuates between traditionally “male” and “female” gender-based behaviours and identities.
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and
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Gender Fluid
A mix of boy and girl. A person who is gender fluid may always feel like a mix of the two traditional genders, but may feel more man some days, and more woman other days.
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and
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Two-Spirit
Is an umbrella term traditionally used by Native American people to recognise individuals who possess qualities of both genders
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are three ways of saying the same thing
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Cisgender
A person whose gender identity and biological sex assigned at birth are the same. For example they were born biologically as a male, and express their gender as male.
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I think the term you're looking for is either male or female.
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Gender Expression
The external display of one’s gender, through a combination of how they dress, how they act and other factors, generally measured on scales of masculinity and femininity.
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a transvestite then.
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Intersex
A person born with a reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t seem to fit the typical definitions of female or male. For example, a person might be born appearing to be female on the outside, but having mostly male-typical anatomy on the inside.
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This is the best one, so what are we describing here a woman born with a vagina but not a womb. Apart from the reproductive organs of both sexes we all have the same anatomy on the inside.
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Gender Variant
Someone who either by nature or by choice does not conform to gender-based expectations of society
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So what, again a Transvestite? a woman that dresses in trouser suit? A very camp straight male, a woman bricklayer?
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Mx.
Is a title (e.g. Mr., Ms., etc.) that is gender neutral. Pronounced miks, (similar to Ms) it is often the option of choice for folks who do not identify as cisgender.
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nothing to do with gender but how you want to write your name which pretty much the same thing as
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Ze / Hir
Alternate pronouns that are gender neutral. Pronounced /zee/ and /here/ they replace “he” and “she” and “his” and “hers” respectively. Alternatively some people who are not comfortable/do not embrace he/she use the plural pronoun “they/their” as a gender neutral singular pronoun.
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not anything to with gender
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Third Gender
A term for a person who does not identify with either man or woman, but identifies with another gender. This gender category is used by societies that recognise three or more genders, both contemporary and historic, and is also a conceptual term meaning different things to different people who use it.
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well as seen as so far no evidence has been produced in this list of a third or forth gender, I'd love to know what the other gender is.
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Transgender
A person who lives as a member of a gender other than that expected based on sex assigned at birth.
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a term I recognise. as someone transitioning from male to female or vice versa.
It's all bollocks.
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02-02-2021, 16:12
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Spot on, Seph, and what they are taught should be something worthwhile and not this bloody nonsense.
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Well put, Max.
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02-02-2021, 16:50
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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if you're trying to be anything other than Male or Female, then what are you trying to be?
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If in their head they feel like a woman trapped in the wrong body, then perhaps they need to learn a bit more about how those born female managed, having some regard for the struggles they have gone through to reach a point where there is still inequality, but it is getting there.
We are all human beings, gender is not black and white as some would like to think. Even the chromosomes that determine sex can be shades of grey.
The biggest problem I can see, is the obsession with labels.
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06-02-2021, 19:18
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
There are three genders. Male, female and not sure.
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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There are three genders. Male, female and not sure.
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Are you sure?
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06-02-2021, 20:03
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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06-02-2021, 20:07
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Why? Aren't you?
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06-02-2021, 20:33
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Are you sure?
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I’m positive, mate! Wanna fight?
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06-02-2021, 20:55
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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You need to self isolate and contemplate this question!
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