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Old 13-02-2021, 11:56   #61
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

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Nothing can be done because of the 1st Amendment. If Trump is to be targeted for using “Fight like hell”, then so can the Democrats who used similar speech and encouraged BLM protests that saw cities and many businesses burned to the ground.

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From all accounts the Biden White House is fuming. Apparently, it was overheard being said there, “I told you jackasses, this trial would blow up in our faces.”

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Democrats used same language as Trump. Incited attacks on him... but it’s not about whataboutism...

The two legal prongs that constitute incitement of imminent lawless action are as follows: Advocacy of force or criminal activity does not receive First Amendment protections if (1) the advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and (2) is likely to incite or produce such action.
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Old 13-02-2021, 13:34   #62
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The two legal prongs that constitute incitement of imminent lawless action are as follows: Advocacy of force or criminal activity does not receive First Amendment protections if (1) the advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and (2) is likely to incite or produce such action.
Which he did not do. So his speech would still be protected. Nowhere in his speech did he say. Enter the Capitol building and go after congressman and Senatiors or seize or take over power.
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Old 13-02-2021, 13:37   #63
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Which he did not do. So his speech would still be protected. Nowhere in his speech did he say. Enter the Capitol building and go after congressman and Senatiors or seize or take over power.
They wouldn’t have to prove that he gave specific directions like that though. “Lawless action” in general would be sufficient proof.
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They wouldn’t have to prove that he gave specific directions like that though. “Lawless action” in general would be sufficient proof.
What lawless action do you think Trump did?
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What lawless action do you think Trump did?
I think you’re misunderstanding my point, which should be read as a response to Mick’s quoted comment.
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

BREAKING: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says in an email to colleagues that he will vote to acquit former President Donald Trump. Source Politico.
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

The outcome of this trial really is all about internal Republican Party politics. We know the Dems will all vote to convict, and a small handful of GOP will do as well, but the only tangible outcome of a conviction is barring Trump from future office. So for the rest of the GOP the question really is, is that what they want, and is it more trouble than it's worth? Trump still has a very significant following within the party. Taking action like this now, may give his supporters time to splinter off and build a following.
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The outcome of this trial really is all about internal Republican Party politics. We know the Dems will all vote to convict, and a small handful of GOP will do as well, but the only tangible outcome of a conviction is barring Trump from future office. So for the rest of the GOP the question really is, is that what they want, and is it more trouble than it's worth? Trump still has a very significant following within the party. Taking action like this now, may give his supporters time to splinter off and build a following.
Calling it a 'trial' is another farce from a farcical country. Everyone has decided how they're going to vote regardless of evidence !

However if it divides GOP then that's a bonus on top of the Presidency and the Senate results, it would be the icing on the cake.

Bigger real trials are coming for Donnie...
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The 'Establishment' Republicans will be hoping Trump's power fades over the next 2/3 years I reckon. Otherwise, he will probably run again.
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BREAKING: Former U.S President Donald J Trump Acquitted in his Second Impeachment trial.
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BREAKING: Former U.S President Donald J Trump Acquitted in his Second Impeachment trial.


A total of 43 senators voted 'not guilty' which passed the two thirds majority required for his acquittal.

In a statement after the trial, Mr Trump said it was "a sad commentary on our times" that the Democrats had been given a "free pass to transform justice into a tool of political vengeance, and persecute, blacklist, cancel and suppress all people and viewpoints with whom or which they disagree".

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...trial-12217300
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BREAKING: Former U.S President Donald J Trump Acquitted in his Second Impeachment trial.
BREAKING: The Pope's a Catholic.

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A total of 43 senators voted 'not guilty' which passed the two thirds majority required for his acquittal.
i.e the majority, including senators in his own party, found him guilty
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

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Pretty much - its not exactly the most surprising outcome of the year so far.

The whole thing was just typical US theatre & nonsense.

The sooner Trump fades away into obscurity the better.
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Doubt he'll fade away. He is the frontrunner now for the 2024 nomination and will likely be the unofficial leader of the GOP for now.
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Acquitted
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