05-03-2021, 19:12
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I see you get my point.
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Probably not - I thought we were a loyal ally supporting a strategic alliance, working together to achieve a common goal.
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05-03-2021, 19:18
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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As I've said months ago, the Irish government are the EU's running dogs.
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Regrettably, repeating an erroneous statement does not magically make it correct. The UK is in a bit of a pincer movement between the EU and the USA of David Frost's making. If he had asked the EU for an extension I'm sure it would have been granted. The days of the UK being able to boss Ireland around are gone and the boot's likely to be on the other foot if we continue to make large diplomatic blunders like this one.
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05-03-2021, 19:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Probably not - I thought we were a loyal ally supporting a strategic alliance, working together to achieve a common goal.
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Isn't that what Ireland's doing with the EU?
Anyway, leave me alone, please.
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05-03-2021, 19:56
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Carth
I don't see what all the fuss is about 
Does Ireland want to trade with the UK? YES/NO
Does Ireland want a hard border with the UK? YES/NO
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I thought we'd left the EU and signed a trade deal. End of debate. 
Why can't BoJo honour this agreement like a gentleman?
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05-03-2021, 22:09
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I thought we'd left the EU and signed a trade deal. End of debate.
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Yes, that's what I thought . . in fact we DID sign a trade deal, but it looks like the EU lot now don't like parts of it. I'm sure Bojos' isn't the only signature on it either
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05-03-2021, 23:02
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Yes, that's what I thought . . in fact we DID sign a trade deal, but it looks like the EU lot now don't like parts of it. I'm sure Bojos' isn't the only signature on it either |
The EU is honouring its side of things. It's the UK that has unilaterally decided to give itself an extension in implementing agreed processes when it should have consulted with the EU.
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05-03-2021, 23:19
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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The EU is honouring its side of things. It's the UK that has unilaterally decided to give itself an extension in implementing agreed processes when it should have consulted with the EU.
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I suspect that David Frost has been consulting with the EU for some weeks now. Not having made any headway with them, the Guvmin must now do something to ease the goods delivery problems for NI which has empty supermarket shelves. It's not acceptable.
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05-03-2021, 23:26
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I suspect that David Frost has been consulting with the EU for some weeks now. Not having made any headway with them, the Guvmin must now do something to ease the goods delivery problems for NI which has empty supermarket shelves. It's not acceptable.
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Apparently not, it came as a bolt from the blue. If it was going to take 10 months to get the systems in place then the BoJo should have taken up the EU's offer of a one-year extension. But BoJo couldn't resist the concept of implementing Brexit during the pandemic so the negative aspects are not as apparent.
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06-03-2021, 01:08
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Probably after a few weeks of pointless discussion that led nowhere, the UK decided to do what it wanted, knowing the EU would either let things go or ring back with different ideas.
Much like ringing retentions on here 
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09-03-2021, 18:22
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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10-03-2021, 17:51
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Re: Britain outside the EU
First the BrExpress, now the Telegraph is waking up to the trading mess that BoJo has got us into. Jeremy Warner, Associate Editor has Tweeted.
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Importing almost anything from the EU has descended into abject chaos, with HMRC apparently clueless on new VAT rules, and all kinds of other previously non existent charges. Easier and less costly now to import from the US, where there is no FTA. What the hell is going on?
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https://twitter.com/JeremyWarnerUK/s...93609478094849
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10-03-2021, 18:51
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I suspect you’re reading something into that that isn’t there.
If Warner claims that the VAT regime between the UK and EU is more complex than that between the UK and the USA, then that’s a specific complaint about the way HMRC is handling the transition to new UK-EU arrangements, or possibly a complaint that the EU is being obstructive,* not a cry of repentance over Brexit.
If you follow the Torygraph’s editorial trajectory over a period of time you can see that it likes Brexit and dislikes the EU as much as ever. It just absolutely hates Boris.
*Which would be another piece of evidence demonstrating we’re better off outside such an organisation
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10-03-2021, 19:37
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I suspect you’re reading something into that that isn’t there.
If Warner claims that the VAT regime between the UK and EU is more complex than that between the UK and the USA, then that’s a specific complaint about the way HMRC is handling the transition to new UK-EU arrangements, or possibly a complaint that the EU is being obstructive,* not a cry of repentance over Brexit.
If you follow the Torygraph’s editorial trajectory over a period of time you can see that it likes Brexit and dislikes the EU as much as ever. It just absolutely hates Boris.
*Which would be another piece of evidence demonstrating we’re better off outside such an organisation
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Warner is claiming that since Brexit,
- HMRC is apparently clueless on new VAT rules
- there are now new charges
- it's easier and less costly now to import from the US, which the UK has not free trade deal with. Doesn't sound like we've got a good deal or implemented it well. The Buck stops at the top.
The Telegraph has paid BoJo millions as a columnist over the years. I'm surprised to hear it now hates Boris particuarly as he's delivered Brexit.
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10-03-2021, 21:58
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Apart from some bloke shoving it on his twitter, are there any more links to this?
. . . or is it (again) just some random social media opinion that fits your . . .
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