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Old 18-03-2021, 22:18   #3796
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I'd vote for her, just think . . . next time they might get someone useful
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Old 18-03-2021, 22:19   #3797
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Lying in the Scottish Parliament is a serious breach of the ministerial code and it specifically says when this rule is breached, it should result in resignation.
I’m not disputing that part I’m interested in whether they are they calling her a liar or are they saying “potentially mislead”. They’re not one and the same.

The fact this is being rushed out by Laura K and the likes tells me all I need to know. The report when published will be extremely woolly, not definitive and not enough to force a resignation. Which they know.
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Old 18-03-2021, 22:46   #3798
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Sky News points out that "knowingly" is not in the text of the committee's report. The report says "mislead" and then "potentially breached the ministerial code". Does "potentially" rescue her?
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A Scottish parliamentary committee has concluded that First Minister Nicola Sturgeon misled parliament.

Sky News understands that Holyrood's harassment committee has reached the conclusion by a majority vote ahead of the publication of its final report.

Members have decided that Ms Sturgeon misled the committee itself and, as such, misled parliament and potentially breached the ministerial code of conduct.
https://news.sky.com/story/sturgeon-...finds-12249817
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Old 18-03-2021, 22:50   #3799
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I’m not disputing that part I’m interested in whether they are they calling her a liar or are they saying “potentially mislead”. They’re not one and the same.

The fact this is being rushed out by Laura K and the likes tells me all I need to know. The report when published will be extremely woolly, not definitive and not enough to force a resignation. Which they know.
You do know the Committee in question, that has voted on whether Sturgeon misled, has a SNP majority, with the Greens?
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

It looks like the committee's Green MSP discovered her backbone. The SNP MSPs will all have voted to exonerate Sturgeon of course. On matters of confidence and supply they can normally rely on the useful idiots in the Green Party to prop them up. Not today, it seems.
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Old 18-03-2021, 22:52   #3801
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The rats don't need to go down with the ship those with any sense will ensure only the captain is lost
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Old 18-03-2021, 23:00   #3802
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You do know the Committee in question, that has voted on whether Sturgeon misled, has a SNP majority, with the Greens?
I am aware of the composite of the committee. An opposition majority.
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Old 18-03-2021, 23:05   #3803
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I am aware of the composite of the committee. An opposition majority.
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Old 18-03-2021, 23:08   #3804
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It looks like the committee's Green MSP discovered her backbone. The SNP MSPs will all have voted to exonerate Sturgeon of course. On matters of confidence and supply they can normally rely on the useful idiots in the Green Party to prop them up. Not today, it seems.
It’s a good time to offer product differentiation among the pro-independence parties.
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Old 18-03-2021, 23:08   #3805
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Can you list all the Committee based inquiries and investigations in to Westminster being misled?

I can think of one particular time, when Labour lied about WMD in Iraq and took us to an illegal war.

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Absolutely not. She’s been found to have lied and breached the ministerial code. She needs to go as per their own rules.
how about a court order thats shows Boris mislead parliament it does not matter what party does it if they mislead parliament they should be gone IMHO

https://goodlawproject.org/update/jo...ed-parliament/

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I think you meant shows Boris mislead Parliament not should Boris...
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Old 18-03-2021, 23:28   #3807
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I am aware of the composite of the committee. An opposition majority.
On the contrary, the Green Party routinely supports the SNP on issues of confidence and supply. Sturgeon’s failure to convince the committee is her failure, not theirs.
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On the contrary, the Green Party routinely supports the SNP on issues of confidence and supply. Sturgeon’s failure to convince the committee is her failure, not theirs.
They’re not the SNP, that puts the SNP in the minority not the majority.

While the Green Party do routinely support the SNP on confidence or supply this Committee was a matter of neither. Failure to convince people you disagree with politically often relates to matters other than the evidence, as routinely demonstrated (at a lower level) on this very forum.

If this was the silver bullet opponents of the SNP wish it to be it’d be announced in the proper manner. Not just in time for a BBC Panorama special.
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how about a court order thats shows Boris mislead parliament it does not matter what party does it if they mislead parliament they should be gone IMHO

https://goodlawproject.org/update/jo...ed-parliament/
Wow. This is one only. You said it happens all the time that there would no MPs left coz they’d all have to resign. So what you said was wrong and totally inaccurate.
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Wow. This is one only. You said it happens all the time that there would no MPs left coz they’d all have to resign. So what you said was wrong and totally inaccurate.
Mislead the forum then
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